Princess Di

[CiberTHuG]

I know this is a question some people may find in bad taste, but...

when I first heard about her death that evening, my immediate reaction was, "Someone had her killed." But then someone mentioned that Dodi Fayd had died with her. Then I thought, "How? In a closed room, where no one saw it? You have to be kidding, they probably faked it."

When I finally got a chance to see the news they went into detail about the car accident, and the reporter on the motorcycle, and the fact that the driver lived.

Well, I figured it must be for real, but today I was thinking... did anyone, other than the report on the motorcycle, see the car go into the tunnel, and watch it the whole time? I don't remember if the car came out the other side, I'm just wondering.

No, I don't think Elvis is still alive, and no I don't think Hitler or Kennedy are still alive. I do think people have staged their deaths in the past though, and I would wager it will happen again. But something just doesn't sit right with me about that accident.

As you can tell, I'm bored.

[FATBOYPEE]

Prapps I'm bored too, but I watched a Dutch Dubbed documentary on the 'incident'...still, four years on... (is it ?)

I still reckon they were both 'hit', no accident that, too darn fishey...

As for Jill Dando, well, she got killed for just looking like Di...

But I do fink they woz hit...

FBP

[SteveCRM]

Im pretty sure they were taken to the hospital, unless they paid off a HELL OF A LOT of people.

[HarryW]

I don't really care to be honest. I was kind of sad for her family at the time, but no more than I would be for anyone else. I think people made a big deal about a relatively minor incident. Where were all the mourners and flowers for Mother Teresa? It's almost sickening how easily manipulated people are by the media.

[chrisjk]

Originally posted by FATBOYPEE
Jill Dando, well, she got killed for just looking like Di...

I thought she was her sister they were so alike

[CiberTHuG]

Originally posted by SteveCRM
Im pretty sure they were taken to the hospital, unless they paid off a HELL OF A LOT of people.

Uhm... why would they have to have paid off all of these people? Think long and hard before you answer, because these deaths could have been arranged (faked) with very few people knowing.

'Course, the problem with investigating something like this is, I don't want to expose it. I'd much rather she live in secret.

In that way it is a lot like religion. It is a self-fullfilling kind of thing, but I'm rambling.

[Bonker Gudd]

Sometimes I wonder if she's still alive, she's still on the front of the Daily Mail every other day!

[SteveCRM]

I meant like maybe pay off the doctors to say she's dead, the ambulance workers, etc. anyone that could actually know their true status.

[FATBOYPEE]

Can't imagine she's still alive, they follow mr AllTeeth around dont they (Willyum ?) and he never pops off to see his ma does he ?

More likely she was 'hit'.... talking of media manipulation, that dutch documentary really centred on the Queen as being a cold hearted *****... I found that hysterically accurate...
It also featured on how manipulative Jill, er I mean Di was in using the media.... again, cynically accurate.....

As for the hospital trip, why if she wenrent 'hit' did they go to the furthest hospital away and take over half an hour to get there ??

Anyone ever known an ambulance to 'go slow' because of injury to the patient... my Ar8888888se........

FBP

[CiberTHuG]

Okay, you didn't think long enough.

The reason I asked if there is anyone who saw the car without interruption is...

It would only take 3 seconds to get Dodi and Di out of the car and replace them with cadivers. Or to completely switch cars. The car that wrecked didn't have to be the car that went into the tunnel. The point it, you have two bodies in a car accident. You are told who they are. How is an ambulance worker going to know? And there was no autopsy, so how are the doctors going to know? Money here is no object. We can not only get two cadiver's will like builds, we can give them new faces. We could probably even give them new faces -before- they die.

When money is no object, and the media is anxious enough, you can do anything. The only people who have to know is the driver, the guy on the motorcycle, and whoever arranged it. I'm guessing that a few more people would've been told to help out. The ME for example, just to make sure he doesn't poke around the dead bodies too much.

Marilyn Monroe and Elvis could've faked their deaths. I just don't think they did. *shrug* Di has much more reason and desire to.

[Geoff Gunson]

I don't think it was staged because some of those reporters where nearly imprisoned for not helping, they just stood around and took photos. Therefore there must/could be photographic evidence of Di and Dodi in a pretty mangled state.

Also why??

Di had already left (being pushed out of) the Royal family, she was suppoesed to be starting to get her life together, if they wanted to be out of the media circus I am shure the pair of them could by a small island somewhere.

G

[CiberTHuG]

Originally posted by Geoff Gunson
Di had already left (being pushed out of) the Royal family, she was suppoesed to be starting to get her life together, if they wanted to be out of the media circus I am shure the pair of them could by a small island somewhere.

I'm guessing they did buy a small island somewhere. *shrug*

And if the bodies were in such a mangled state, who's to say for sure who's they were. And if you are going to fake something and make it believable, you have to go all the way. If a reporter gets arrested for taking pictures, well, so be it. It looks real, because you have to act like it is.

[Bonker Gudd]

Originally posted by CiberTHuG
And if the bodies were in such a mangled state, who's to say for sure who's they were

She didn't die until a few hours after the crash, so she couldn't have been that mangled!

[Geoff Gunson]

Originally posted by CiberTHuG


I'm guessing they did buy a small island somewhere. *shrug*

Why bother going to all that trouble of faking their own deaths, when they have the means to achive the same result without drawning the worlds attention on themselfs???

I know what your saying I just think your wrong.

G

[CiberTHuG]

Originally posted by Bonker Gudd
She didn't die until a few hours after the crash, so she couldn't have been that mangled!

Hmmm... that is interesting.

Which answer Fatboy's questions. If she was still alive, then it matters which hospital she goes to. It is possible the closer ones either had no trauma, or were full and closed to trauma, or that the further hospital had someone on staff to handle the situation better. As to travelling slower, well this is a special case. They may have authorized proceedures to be carried out in the ambulance that aren't normally done until arrival.

[CiberTHuG]

Originally posted by Geoff Gunson
Why bother going to all that trouble of faking their own deaths, when they have the means to achive the same result without drawning the worlds attention on themselfs???

I know what your saying I just think your wrong.

It is just the idea that they would keep getting hounded by the media if they tried to slip away to their own island. Now that no one is looking, they can slip of to their own island and not be bothered.

As to the Mother Theresa comment earlier, her death was more expected. Di was very sudden. And there were flowers for Theresa in India (?) where she did her work.

[HarryW]

Okay that's fair enough, but people were talking about how she should be declared a saint for ****'s sake. I was quite pissed off at the time. Sure, she did a lot for charity and stuff, but she was far from perfect. She tried to commit suicide like 6 times, how's that going to affect her kids?

Sorry, this is something I get kind of opinionated about.

[Geoff Gunson]

Ok

What about the evidence of the car crash. The police new that the car entered the tunnel at around 100 mhp, the car bottomed out causing it to go into a slide. Evidence to prove this, tire marks, scratching. It then clipped the wall, again paint matching the Merc was found on the wall. The car went into a final slide and hit a post in the middle of the tunnel (sideways) at an estimated 50-60 mph. Dianna was't wearing a seat belt. There is also evidence of a her head deforming the inside of the cabin.

So with the path of the car and the speed, which can be acuratly estimated, would you honestly say that you would fake your own death in a car crash at 50-60 mph??? Hitting a solid concrete post that is two foot thick??? NOT wearing seat belts?????

The prosicution rests your honer :P

G

[nishantp]

Originally posted by Geoff Gunson
I don't think it was staged because some of those reporters where nearly imprisoned for not helping, they just stood around and took photos. Therefore there must/could be photographic evidence of Di and Dodi in a pretty mangled state.

Also why??

Di had already left (being pushed out of) the Royal family, she was suppoesed to be starting to get her life together, if they wanted to be out of the media circus I am shure the pair of them could by a small island somewhere.

G

Havnt read the rest of the thread, but yes as i remember, they were driving so fast just to get away from reporters.

[CiberTHuG]

I think you missed the whole thing about switching the occupants, or even switching cars.

I have no doubt there was an accident. The fact that there was doesn't preclude anything.

That is why I was asking if anyone said they saw the car the entire time, other then the guy on the motorcycle.

What puts a real damper on the whole thing is, if she did live for several hours afterwards. Well, that means we didn't put a cadiver in the car, and we never would've risked having that many people know the story (this dead body really isn't Di, and we are going to say that she lived for some time after the accident). The other possiblity, having a live double, is not worth it. That is a lunatic idea since it could be accomplished with a cadiver.

Eh.. guess it was just a silly thought.