website review

[scoutt]

tell me what you think and if you have any suggestions. also looking for ways to improve it.

www.motorcycleridersassoc.org

mostly done in php.

I am all setup in the search engines, so no problem there, but want to find ways to get people to the site.

critisism constuctive or not is helpful.

[Psyrus]

Hi scoutt,

I'm using a 17" monitor(1024x768) and the first page looks a little off center(right aligned), the background image is repeating on the right side of the page and the mouseovers on the navigation links are a little strange. When you move the mouse around in the link the div/layer kinda follows the motion. One more strange thing. When I minimize the browser window and move the mouse around in the text the bottom scroll bar increases and decreases in size. If I move it to the right it gets smaller, to the left it gets bigger.

Sorry for the nitpicking but I guess it's constructive.

Otherwise....Nice Job

[Psyrus]

Getting people to the site...

Try joining some Yahoo clubs and posting the link there. Some of Yahoo clubs have 3,000+ members in them. There's got to be some for motorcycles/bikers etc...

It's a free, cheap($0) and non spamming way of getting the word out...

[sail3005]

yeah, it looks awesome.

The onlt strange thing is thaty when i move the mouse to the right side it activates the bottom scroll bar.

[scoutt]

ya it does that to me as well. seems that the way I use the tooltips it does it. every site that I got to that has that does the same thing. couldn't tell ya why though.

Chris, thanks for the yahoo tip. I didn't even think of that.

I will change my settings for the 1024x768 and see if I can fix it.

the div/layers are suppose to follow the mouse as they are not set to one space. I think it is setting to the x,y position of the mouse when it is over the links.

if you know of a way to fix it I'm all ears.

thanks guys

[scoutt]

so tell me, if I made the background th size of 1027x748 or so would if shrink down to 800x600 if soembody has that size? or will it run over and give you the scroll bar?

[Psyrus]

scoutt,

Increasing the size should work. I made a background image 1152 x 864 and loaded it into a test HTML page as the background and it was fine on my screen, no scrollbars.

[scoutt]

thanks I will try that then and let you know. anyway I moved the text so it is not on the right side.

[beachbum]

Hi Scoutt
Site looks good and i hope u take what i say next as constructive and not picky

Your colour scheme is for want of a better word..emm... tries to be nice...emmmm ... well... lime green and orange????? Also, i wonder how easy it is to read lots of capitalized text.
Site is good tho for content and tricky mouseovers etc.
Regards
Stuart

[scoutt]

Oh how dare you say that in front of the screen

I ought ah ah ah ah ah.... oh nevermind.

I agree with ya on the most part. but the colors are the clubs colors, well sort of, they wanted green and orange but I tried other greens and blah I hate green, as far as the capitols go, well that is the way they write for the club. tell me about it, it is a ***** to raise the first letter on certain words and make the code clean and small, huh it is impossible.

but thanks anyway for taking a look at it. I am redoing the tooltips. I did another way that will work better.

[scoutt]

ok Chris, I changed the background for the 1024x768 resolution. check it out and see if it works better.

[landon11]

Originally posted by scoutt
ya it does that to me as well. seems that the way I use the tooltips it does it. every site that I got to that has that does the same thing. couldn't tell ya why though.

Chris, thanks for the yahoo tip. I didn't even think of that.

I will change my settings for the 1024x768 and see if I can fix it.

the div/layers are suppose to follow the mouse as they are not set to one space. I think it is setting to the x,y position of the mouse when it is over the links.

if you know of a way to fix it I'm all ears.

thanks guys

This one doesn't seem to:

http://www.dyn-web.com/dhtml/tooltip.html

[scoutt]

thank you , I might be able to use that,

[scoutt]

ok guys, I fixed the tooltips. check it out and see if you get any errors and if it scrolls. it does if you go to the information page and hover over the last one it scrolls a little but that is it.

[Psyrus]

I think that got it....

[scoutt]

woooo hooooo.......... dances a jig..........

i don't even know how to dance a jig

[filburt1]

Originally posted by scoutt
tell me what you think and if you have any suggestions. also looking for ways to improve it.

www.motorcycleridersassoc.org

mostly done in php.

I am all setup in the search engines, so no problem there, but want to find ways to get people to the site.

critisism constuctive or not is helpful.

Background pictures = bad
Excessive tables and colors = bad
Other stuff = good

Think along the lines of my site at http://www.liquid2k.com/filburt1/passprog2 . Clean and fast-loading with to-the-point content.

[scoutt]

Arien,
it was not by choice that the colors are that way. that is the clubs colors. and what do you mean excessive tables and colors. the tables help align things and they work with all browsers.

oh I forgot, your site is plain, just black letters on white background.

[beachbum]

Originally posted by scoutt
it was not by choice that the colors are that way. that is the clubs colors.

Hi again
Yeah, i dunno... there must be some other way to use these colours to make them somehow less *out there*. I am not criticising ur site .. i know you are stuck with the colours... but are u able to tell the club that they are gawd awful!! lol Are u restricted to only these colours or can u use more and reduce the use of the club colours? Do the clubs colours even need to be so prominent apart from a logo? sorry for going on about this but they are just such ugly colours and uglier when used together.

Also, have u considered moving some of the action photos to the front page as a *grab* to readers?
Regards
Stuart

[landon11]

Here's a great place to try out colors http://www.jkd.f2s.com/color.html

[scoutt]

Originally posted by beachbum

Hi again
Yeah, i dunno... there must be some other way to use these colours to make them somehow less *out there*. I am not criticising ur site .. i know you are stuck with the colours... but are u able to tell the club that they are gawd awful!! lol Are u restricted to only these colours or can u use more and reduce the use of the club colours? Do the clubs colours even need to be so prominent apart from a logo? sorry for going on about this but they are just such ugly colours and uglier when used together.

Also, have u considered moving some of the action photos to the front page as a *grab* to readers?
Regards
Stuart

thanks and don't worry about critisizing my site. if you have a better way to use those colors I am all ears. I have tried the pictures in front and some other stuff, but since I changed to php and moved things around I gained a 15sec load time, ya it was a little slow before.
Last site was all orange and black with green. so I basically took out the black since it is hard on the eyes. (like green isn't)
anyway I will check out that site you sent landon11 and beachbum if you have a suggestion I am totally open to them.

think of it this way, it is my site I can do what I please, but have to stick to the club ways, does that make since.

[sail3005]

Originally posted by landon11
Here's a great place to try out colors http://www.jkd.f2s.com/color.html

thats awesome, i have been looking for something like that for a LOOOOONG time!

[sail3005]

Scoutt, just a suggestion, perhaps you could use the club colors in just the logo or something, and then have the rest of the page be more, um, lets say, appealing colors.

[scoutt]

I can always try, what colors do you suggest. if they don't like it I can go back to the original.

[landon11]

Sounds like I found a place that appreciates me.

[sail3005]

did you make that?

[landon11]

No, I just made some suggestions as to the kind of things I thought it needed.

[sail3005]

well, it's cool. I have been looking for stuff like that.

[landon11]

http://asp.xcentrixlc.com/john/bgColorFrame.htm

http://www.geocities.com/stereohi/colorchart.html

[scoutt]

tha tgeocities one was cool, little hard to find the right color though, you can't get precise, but it was cool

[sail3005]

hmm..all this talk is motovating me to make my own color picker.

[scoutt]

Originally posted by sail3005
hmm..all this talk is motovating me to make my own color picker.

well it is about time you got off your arse,
I toned down the site colors, check it out and see if that is better.

[sail3005]

well, i am forced to do some work in a few days as school is starting again very fast.

BTW, the colors are better. If you want, you might tone down the green a bit more, but other than that, the improvements you have made are great.

[scoutt]

school muhawawaw that time already

thanks I will tone a little more.

[sail3005]

4 days and counting...

BTW i noticed that there was some error on your scramble results page.

just in case you didn't know.

[scoutt]

thanks I will look at in a few.

[scoutt]

ok I fixed the error and I changed the background. tell me what you think.

[sail3005]

thats 10 times better! the gray is very good.

[scoutt]

you think the grey looks better that way. for some reason it looks funny to me... oh well as long as it looks better.

[sail3005]

It's probably because you have been looking at it for longer than i have. Once you get used to the gray, you will probably like it better.