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[Niya]

If you want to be able to legally consume a particular animal then you are going to have to construct a better case than the one you have just presented Niya.

Well here's the thing. I already can legally and do consume quite a few animals.

[Niya]

And my justification ? They taste good.

[Niya]

I mean just look at that. Doesn't that look tasty!!!

[Niya]

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Why would I need anymore justification than that!

[Niya]

CHICKEN!!

[Niya]

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[Witis]

You do realize that you are making all of that up, right? You actually have no data and are clearly guessing. Guessing mostly wrong, too.

What have I made up? That there is no requirement for trees to line desert streams, that the sun is hottest in the middle of the day, that the deepest pools are the coolest, or that desert fish have evolved to withstand desert conditions including warm water and some species can even survive when the water completely disappears?

[Witis]

Right...they are similar...as long as you remove several letters. Well, if you remove the o in order, you don't have to remove the r from murder and the second d from udder to get them to look kind of similar. So, one change to one word rather that two changes to one word and one change to the other word, or else the addition of one letter and deletion of two. I'd say order is closer than udder.

After reading that I think the desert sun might be getting to you Sharky.

I have never outlined that it is ok to kill plants, and I challenge you to produce any evidence to the contrary. Similarly I have never outlined that it is ok to kill animals indiscriminately, instead I have provided reasons to justify why some animals can be killed for food including fish, gators, and snakes, and that it is murder to kill innocent animals like chickens, cows, and deer. The key is using one's wit to determine which animals, if any, can be justifiably killed for food. If you don't have a valid reason to justify killing a particular animal then you are almost certainly committing murder. :L

So you condone killing plants and animals that you find tasty, but moralize about killing other animals? Sounds pretty self-serving, Bambi.

I have never indicated that taste is a valid justification for killing any plant or creature; "because they taste good" has been used by you, Niya, FunkyD, and many others in an attempt to falsely justify your consumption of chickens and cows.

[Witis]

@witis - don't argue stream mechanics with Shaggy - I believe that's his forte...

Oups, too late.

[Witis]

Well here's the thing. I already can legally and do consume quite a few animals.

It seems to me that you are consuming both chickens and cows without any valid justification i.e. you are indirectly and knowingly murdering those animals when you voraciously and mercilessly devour them on a regular basis. °o° (._.)

[dday9]

#57010 = mmmmmmmm

[Witis]

And my justification ? They taste good.

As I already indicated that's not a justification as humans are omnivores meaning that most animals will taste agreeable to most humans including human flesh. By extension you are saying that you think you should be allowed to eat other humans.

[Witis]

I mean just look at that. Doesn't that look tasty!!!

Any fleeting taste cannot overcome the enduring sadness, guilt, and repercussions for knowingly contributing to the death of an innocent creature. It's now on your record, eternally. :L

[Witis]

Do you have anything to say in your defense Niya?

[dday9]

Do you have anything to say in your defense Niya?

Wapa boey

[Niya]

...humans are omnivores meaning that most animals will taste agreeable to most humans including human flesh. By extension you are saying that you think you should be allowed to eat other humans.

Well a human could provide far more benefit alive than dead. Example, he could help me hunt down cows and we could both eat well without having to turn on each other. There's a reason why altruism and co-operation evolved in certain creatures like humans, it aids in improving the chances of survival in a way that solitary creatures can't. What we call civilization is simply the ultimate expression of our evolved tendency towards co-operation. I'm pretty sure eating the members of your co-op would hinder the chances of survival of all member individuals. How many people practice cannibalism today in comparison with those that don't. Not many, that's evolution at work!

[Niya]

Any fleeting taste cannot overcome the enduring sadness, guilt, and repercussions for knowingly contributing to the death of an innocent creature. It's now on your record, eternally. :L

You're implying that I feel guilty about eating chickens. Hate to break it to you son, I don't....sorry.

[Niya]

Do you have anything to say in your defense Niya?

Funny, I don't feel a compulsion to defend myself for doing what comes perfectly natural for me.

[Niya]

It seems to me that you are consuming both chickens and cows without any valid justification...

Why isn't taste a valid justification ?

[Niya]

#57010 = mmmmmmmm

My mouth waters thinking about what I'd do to it with a pot and fire.

[Niya]

How do you even survive Witis ? Can your body perform photosynthesis ?

[Niya]

Or do you eat only "guilty animals" like snakes ?

[Niya]

LOL "guilty animals".......****'s still funny!

[Niya]

"Guilty animals"......LOL I'll never forget the laughs you've given me Witis......Only a brilliant mind like yours can think up something so original!

[Witis]

Well a human could provide far more benefit alive than dead. Example, he could help me hunt down cows and we could both eat well without having to turn on each other. There's a reason why altruism and co-operation evolved in certain creatures like humans, it aids in improving the chances of survival in a way that solitary creatures can't. What we call civilization is simply the ultimate expression of our evolved tendency towards co-operation. I'm pretty sure eating the members of your co-op would hinder the chances of survival of all member individuals. How many people practice cannibalism today in comparison with those that don't. Not many, that's evolution at work!

Would you eat other humans if you could? What about the dead or dying and the physically and mentally disabled and the old folks, those humans unable to contribute anything to society, surely you would eat them up lickety split?

[Witis]

You're implying that I feel guilty about eating chickens. Hate to break it to you son, I don't....sorry.

Son? That's crazy talk right there. Are you saying you feel no regret, no guilt, and no shame for taking the lives of so many innocent creatures and choosing to continue to do so in the future? Can you work out how many chickens you have eaten in your life so far and how many you will consume by the time you die?

[Witis]

Funny, I don't feel a compulsion to defend myself for doing what comes perfectly natural for me.

Does going around murdering folks come naturally to you?

[Witis]

My mouth waters thinking about what I'd do to it with a pot and fire.

Uga boey.

[Witis]

How do you even survive Witis ? Can your body perform photosynthesis ?

Of course not silly, that's why my favourite plants get into photosynthesis for me. I like tomatoes, mushrooms, lots of fruit and nuts, luverly.

[Witis]

Or do you eat only "guilty animals" like snakes ?

That is correct, I only eat animals that I can justify killing for food and that includes snakes.

[Witis]

LOL "guilty animals".......****'s still funny!

I don't imagine you have a sense of right and wrong, or if you do it seems very limited, instead you seem to treat every animal as a potential food source regardless of whether you can justify your actions or not.

[Witis]

"Guilty animals"......LOL I'll never forget the laughs you've given me Witis......Only a brilliant mind like yours can think up something so original!

I certainly haven't read it anywhere else. =D

[Niya]

Would you eat other humans if you could? What about the dead or dying and the physically and mentally disabled and the old folks, those humans unable to contribute anything to society, surely you would eat them up lickety split?

I donno. I have this natural human tendency to want to help humans less able than me....but I still wanna eat steak bro!

[Niya]

...instead you seem to treat every animal as a potential food source regardless of whether you can justify your actions or not.

That's because they are my food source, that's the justification right there.