Your computer

**filburt1** · Jul 31st, 2001, 08:32 AM

What's the screwiest part of your computer? Or just the most ridiciulous part?

I have a subwoofer the size of my monitor, ripped a DVD to my hard drive (7.57 GB, arg), and just upgraded my memory to 512 MB of RAM. (Dell Dimension 4100 P3-933 with 256 MB originally). I put in so much memory because it only cost me $50, and because Quake 3 was using a megabyte of virtual memory. I despise virtual memory.

**Ianpbaker** · Jul 31st, 2001, 08:51 AM

I;ve just built a beast of a machine. 1ghz athlon (running at 1.4) 512mb ddr ram, 60gb hard drive, but it's runnin with a 16mb riva1 graphics card

**filburt1** · Jul 31st, 2001, 09:01 AM

You overclocked 400 MHz? Does it boot?

Get yourself a GeForce2 (or GeForce 3, if money falls out of your ***)

**Ianpbaker** · Jul 31st, 2001, 09:06 AM

just waiting for the geforce 3 to come down a bit. I can afford it but i'm dammed if i'm paying £300 for a graphics card.

As for the over-clocking, I've got the axia athlon and an I-WILL Motherboard, which id basically over-clocker's heavan

http://www.overclockers.co.uk

**crispin** · Jul 31st, 2001, 09:10 AM

PIII 850
512Mb RAM
2*20Gb HD on UDMA 66

**filburt1** · Jul 31st, 2001, 09:12 AM

UDMA/66? Why not UDMA/100? Do the drives or controller not support it?

**filburt1** · Jul 31st, 2001, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by Ianpbaker
just waiting for the geforce 3 to come down a bit. I can afford it but i'm dammed if i'm paying £300 for a graphics card.

As for the over-clocking, I've got the axia athlon and an I-WILL Motherboard, which id basically over-clocker's heavan

http://www.overclockers.co.uk

Then a GeForce2. Less than $100.

**EternalKnight** · Jul 31st, 2001, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by filburt1
UDMA/66? Why not UDMA/100? Do the drives or controller not support it?

Most hard drives don't even fill the 33MB/sec data rate of standard IDE, let alone UDMA/66. Right now the only practical application of UDMA/100 would be on motherboards with integrated RAID.

**filburt1** · Jul 31st, 2001, 10:24 AM

Yeah, well

!

**EternalKnight** · Jul 31st, 2001, 10:31 AM

I have a 1.2ghz Athlon 256DDR Ram, 40gig HD, nice Antec SX830 case (love it!) SBLive! sound card, GeForce 2 Pro. But I think the most screwiest part of the system would be the speakers.

I use Linn Tukans hooked up to a very nice amplifier. $800 USD just for the speakers!

**filburt1** · Jul 31st, 2001, 10:34 AM

It must hurt when you play Quake 3. You feel the frags.

**vbgladiator** · Jul 31st, 2001, 02:06 PM

PIII 933, 256 SDRAM, 64 MB ASUS V7700, Sound Blaster Live 5.1, Cambridge Surround DTT3500, 30GB UDMA-100

**filburt1** · Jul 31st, 2001, 02:07 PM

Only your HD and Graphics card is better than my pooter. Everywhere else I tie or kick your ass.

**crispin** · Jul 31st, 2001, 03:49 PM

abit be6 thats why udma66 and not 100

radeon all in wonder though, for editing all my videos

**filburt1** · Jul 31st, 2001, 03:58 PM

ATI TV Wonder, for watching TV and importing (but not exporting

) S-Video, Composite, and Audio.

scoutt · Jul 31st, 2001, 04:46 PM

originally posted by Eternalknight
Most hard drives don't even fill the 33MB/sec data rate of standard IDE, let alone UDMA/66. Right now the only practical application of UDMA/100 would be on motherboards with integrated RAID.

not true.

most 7200 rpm drives have low seek times and up to 100 MB/s data transfer rates. I have a board that is not raid compatible and it has intergrated udma/100 and it flies,
this is my drive

http://www.westerndigital.com/produc...s/wd200bb.html

I also have 800Mhz duron, 192mb ram dimm, asus k7 mb, ati rage fury pro 32mb video, sbLive pro, 20gb WD HD 7200 rpm, surround sound speakers.

**filburt1** · Jul 31st, 2001, 04:51 PM

Ya gotta get at least 512 MB of RAM like me, dude, if you want your computer to even BOOT!

scoutt · Jul 31st, 2001, 04:57 PM

shioot, dude my computer boots no problem. I don't use win2000 which is a hog. I have 98se and it rocks. no problemos here. you actually thiink having more memory makes your computer boot faster. win98 doesn't even see past 96Mb and it hardly ever uses much past that. no I didn't say programs don't use it, but windows 98 doesn't. besides you can only go so fast and then your eyes won't see any difference after that. so it is like going from a 500Mhz cpu to a 1.2Ghz. you won't see the difference becasue of your eyes.

**JungleMan** · Jul 31st, 2001, 05:10 PM

Current:

550mhz AMD k6-2
20GB hard drive
192 MB RAM (PC100)
Windows 2000

So I guess the crappy part of my computer is, uh, everything? LOL it's a notebook

Future:
1400mhz Athlon
EPoX 8K7A
512MB PC2100 Crucial RAM
IBM 60GXP 40GB hard drive
Slot loading DVD-ROM
PlexWriter 16x10x40
Antec SX840 case
3.5" floppy (duh)

That system 0WNZ you ALL MWAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

**Arcom** · Jul 31st, 2001, 07:24 PM

My computer is all crappy

ASUS P3B-F motherboard
PII 400MHz Celeron
192 MB RAM (PC133)
6,4GB WD hard drive
TEAC 6x writer
TEAC 32x CD-ROM
SB PCI 64
RIVA TNT2 16 MB

The best part of all are the speakers. Connected to a Technics amplifier 2 x 200 Watts REAL POWER!!! BEAT THAT! WHHAHAHAHAAA!

**filburt1** · Jul 31st, 2001, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by Arcom
My computer is all crappy

ASUS P3B-F motherboard
PII 400MHz Celeron
192 MB RAM (PC133)
6,4GB WD hard drive
TEAC 6x writer
TEAC 32x CD-ROM
SB PCI 64
RIVA TNT2 16 MB

*breaks out laughing at the pure crappiness of the stats

*

**EternalKnight** · Aug 1st, 2001, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by filburt1
not true.

most 7200 rpm drives have low seek times and up to 100 MB/s data transfer rates. I have a board that is not raid compatible and it has intergrated udma/100 and it flies,
this is my drive

http://www.westerndigital.com/produ...es/wd200bb.html

Well ok, you're right. From the WD site:

Transfer Rate (Buffer to Host) 100 MB/s (Mode 5 Ultra ATA)
66.6 MB/s (Mode 4 Ultra ATA)
33.3 MB/s (Mode 2 Ultra ATA)
16.6 MB/s (Mode 4 PIO)
16.6 MB/s (Mode 2 multi-word DMA)

So, for the first 2-4 megs of data going to and from the buffer on your hard-drive you get 100 megs a second. BUT Western Digital doesn't tell you what the sustained data rate is, or Host to Disk. I find this disturbing. High-performance drive and they don't even mention the most important specification.

My IBM drive which is a high-end 7200 RPM drive has a sustained data rate of 40 MB/sec, so using anything above UDMA/66 wouldn't do me any good.

http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/desk/ds60gxp.htm

Right now UDMA/100 is useless, but IBM does plan on releasing in 2003 a 400GB drive which with that data density would almost have to transfer at close to 100 MB/sec

**Gary.Lowe** · Aug 1st, 2001, 09:30 AM

ZX Specturm

**filburt1** · Aug 1st, 2001, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by EternalKnight

Right now UDMA/100 is useless...

What!? What about video editing and other disk-intensive applications!? And Scandisk and Defrag!

**Bonker Gudd** · Aug 1st, 2001, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by Gary.Lowe
ZX Specturm

Beats my Dragon 32

**Gary.Lowe** · Aug 1st, 2001, 09:42 AM

The only quarm I have with it is when I'm loading something I have to stay perfectly still for about 20 mins.

Apart from that you can't beat it for performance...

**Zero** · Aug 2nd, 2001, 10:57 AM

Pentium 166 / 66 FSB ( I think ) with 32 megs of ram, one 1 gig and one 2 gig hard drive. So there.

Shut up, all of you.

~Zero the Inestimable

**plenderj** · Aug 2nd, 2001, 11:02 AM

Toshiba 2770XDVD Laptop

P-III 650MHz
128Mb RAM
11Gig HDD
S3 Savage/IX
Xircom PCMCIA 10/100 Network Card
14.1" TFT Screen

Runs quite well tbh.

**nabeels786** · Aug 2nd, 2001, 11:59 AM

my geforce 2 ultra like to think of itself as a geforce ddr dvi, it doesnt wanna be left out...its really annoying...but FPS dont take a hit

my main comp:
p3 733
geforce 2 ultra
512mb ram
20gb hd
40gb hd (for u non-math people that 60gb

)
21" monitor (i need glasses now

)
tbs montego II quadzilla that goes out to preamp that goes to big giant speakers that are surround sounded(the speakers are HUGE, like the ones for old stereos)
250zip (rarely use it)
cd-burner (rarely use that too)

other comp:
p2 300
dual voodoo 2(i spelled it right this time filburt!)
had dvd but i took it out for network card
cd burner

both are networked with 100mbps
if i wanna watch dvd i hook up decoder card

98se on both...
my system rox0rs your box0rs

**siyan** · Aug 2nd, 2001, 07:18 PM

Tbird 800
A7V
192MB PC133 Cas 3 (maybe this..)
30GB 7200RPM
2x Cheapo $20 NICs (maybe this..)
GF2 MX
MaxiSound Fortissimo (maybe this..)
52x CD
12x8x32 LG CDRW

-C

**beachbum** · Aug 2nd, 2001, 08:48 PM

LOL @ Gary & Bonker
Am glad that some ppl recognised the penile nature of this thread and Gary u are not so far from the truth. I had a ZX-80 and the plastic keyboard would actually melt and cause a crash if you used it for more than say an hour at a time. Also a Vic 20 where u had to rewind the cassette recorder and hopefully find the right squeals indicating the start of a file!! And Bonker i always craved for a Dragon but sadly it was out of reach

And anyhow, i dont mind slow machines for development cos is good at forcing you to write lean code.

**plenderj** · Aug 3rd, 2001, 02:10 AM

Well it dont matter how lean you get your code, you'll still need the fat there to actually do something.

**beachbum** · Aug 3rd, 2001, 02:18 AM

And that means what??????

**plenderj** · Aug 3rd, 2001, 02:33 AM

Well you can write code that is really cool and slick and refined, but you're still going to have a bulk of code that has to be executed.

**beachbum** · Aug 3rd, 2001, 02:42 AM

Yeah plenderj
Sorry, but that was not what i was meaning and hence my confusion with ur response. I was not referring to cool code etc merely saying that is good to see how fast / slow operations take on a "lowest common denominator" machine (of sorts!) so that you can see what routines cos slowness etc and then work on them. If u can get the code to run as fast as possible on a slow machine then that is also good for faster machines.

On the flip side if you design on a fast machine and dont check on a slow machine u may not see problems that ur users may encounter becos ur machine zooms on. So, that is all i was meaning - sorry if any confusion.
Regards
Stuart

**Bonker Gudd** · Aug 3rd, 2001, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by beachbum
Bonker i always craved for a Dragon but sadly it was out of reach

It's still in fine working order!
I'll swap it for a nice laptop

**Paul Warren** · Aug 3rd, 2001, 07:30 AM

I've got a C64 AND an Amiga 1200. Stuff that in your DVD drive and play it you losers. ( Well, they were cutting edge once upon a time ).

Lets face it, it costs about £2000 to get a PC worthy of playing decent games, so why bother ? Just buy a PS/2, plug it into your TV and stereo and save a grand or so.

**Jim Brown** · Aug 3rd, 2001, 08:04 AM

Hey Crispin, Scoutt, Nabeels and others- you would think that with all this fancy expensive gear you'd have got a shift key so you can use CaPiTaL lEtTeRs someTImes.

Here's some I don't use very often- ZZZXXXXQQQQQ. I'm all out of capital e's though.

scoutt · Aug 3rd, 2001, 08:55 AM

we don't need no stinkin capitols

**filburt1** · Aug 3rd, 2001, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by scoutt
...stinkin capitols...

orr correkt speeling, 4 taht mater.

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