Post Race!

[Niya]

I GOT BALLS OF STEEL!!!!x

[dday9]

Tehe, he said ****.

[dday9]

Mine are flesh. Not nearly as cool.

[Niya]

lol didn't you have a childhood ? Those are Duke Nukem quotes:-

[WARNING NSFW]

[dday9]

Well I'm off to Hotsprings, Arkansas for the extended weekend.

[dday9]

Hopefully the spring will be warm and the girls even hotter.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Hopefully you will require more than one hand to count their teeth.

[Niya]

rofl....

[Pc Monk]

ever being tired of who you are!? programming all day long for some sh*ty price and sometimes even the customer turns out to be a do*che telling you : No! this wasn't what i meant... i mean what can you have as a programmer ? a normal life ! sometimes you want more! a big move ! like robbing an armored vehicle ! or start selling drugs anything better than this!

[Niya]

That's some rant there....

[Pc Monk]

even if its rant , its true and and you know it, admit it
its just like the Pressed movie , if you didnt watch i recommend you do go and download it

[Shaggy Hiker]

So....your relief from work is....crime? You can't think of any other kinds of 'big moves'?

[Niya]

Crime is not a bad move. Huge risk but huge payoff. If you're willing to devote half your lifespan to prison then I say go for it.

[dunfiddlin]

Huge risk but huge payoff.

Hmm! The proceeds of crime are greatly exaggerated! The vast majority of criminals barely make the minimum wage. Even if they ain't caught they ain't living it up. As illustrated in Freakonomics, you might avoid jail but you can't avoid economic reality!

[Niya]

Well, I'm not talking about ***** crimes like selling weed. I'm talking hardcore crime like bank robberies or running a small drug cartel.

[Shaggy Hiker]

The latter is a high risk/high reward proposition. The former....is a fine example of what dunfiddlin was talking about. Bank robbery rarely nets all that much for the risk involved.

There are any number of reports on this. Here's one from the top of the stack:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1592734.html

[Pc Monk]

So....your relief from work is....crime? You can't think of any other kinds of 'big moves'?

crime ? good and bad ..angel and evil these are just some definition that you learned when u were a kid..what if our parents told us stealing is a good thing or when u say a bad word they say keep saying it,wouldnt it change the definition ?
why always those people that do good things are the genius people , some people are genius at doing bad things! its just like white hat hackers and black hat hackers!
what do u think of big moves ? sitting on ur chair writing codes and get money!! i've being do it for some years , vb6,c++, and now php , it cant make u rich! a normal life like everyone but dont u wanna be different!?
Everything is just a beginning of something bigger

[Nightwalker83]

Other memes!!

What would VB6, vb.NET and C# come up with?

[Shaggy Hiker]

crime ? good and bad ..angel and evil these are just some definition that you learned when u were a kid..what if our parents told us stealing is a good thing or when u say a bad word they say keep saying it,wouldnt it change the definition ?
why always those people that do good things are the genius people , some people are genius at doing bad things! its just like white hat hackers and black hat hackers!
what do u think of big moves ? sitting on ur chair writing codes and get money!! i've being do it for some years , vb6,c++, and now php , it cant make u rich! a normal life like everyone but dont u wanna be different!?
Everything is just a beginning of something bigger

Frankly, I've never had a problem being different.

[Niya]

What would VB6, vb.NET and C# come up with?

What do you mean ?

[Shaggy Hiker]

crime ? good and bad ..angel and evil these are just some definition that you learned when u were a kid..what if our parents told us stealing is a good thing or when u say a bad word they say keep saying it,wouldnt it change the definition ?
why always those people that do good things are the genius people , some people are genius at doing bad things! its just like white hat hackers and black hat hackers!
what do u think of big moves ? sitting on ur chair writing codes and get money!! i've being do it for some years , vb6,c++, and now php , it cant make u rich! a normal life like everyone but dont u wanna be different!?
Everything is just a beginning of something bigger

Crime generally means hurting someone. As a general rule, we didn't need to learn that was wrong. Fairness appears to be written into our genes.

[Pc Monk]

Crime generally means hurting someone. As a general rule, we didn't need to learn that was wrong. Fairness appears to be written into our genes.

i hoped someone would say that...
Crime generally means hurting someone , i agree , but what is a crime ? example : selling drugs ? thats not a crime , you are not forcing anyone to use it , they come to you
but we did learn ! No ?
when you were a baby i'm sure you hit your parents once or twice you didnt know it was a bad thing but since you couldnt understand a word , they tell you its wrong(bad) by pulling their eyebrows together and such a things..but how does that work ? well when the expression on their face is anger you'll get scared! so you know that was a wrong move cause u get scared and you wont do it again! But what if they laughed ? you would thought it as a good thing and you would do it again because its not scaring you anymore it makes you laugh at their laugh ( back when u were a baby) after that when u grow up you start to understand the world that you in , alphabets etc...

this is how you know now what is bad and what is not.. but think of it, what if they Taught you the other way ?
hope u agree with me now that these are just things that you started to learn since you was born.

[Nightwalker83]

What do you mean ?

I mean what would that character in the picture say if the pare were written in VB6, vb.NET or C#.

[Niya]

Oh, well I don't know. That image wasn't made by me.

[Nightwalker83]

Oh, well I don't know. That image wasn't made by me.

Ah ok!

[Shaggy Hiker]

i hoped someone would say that...
Crime generally means hurting someone , i agree , but what is a crime ? example : selling drugs ? thats not a crime , you are not forcing anyone to use it , they come to you

Well, technically, it IS a crime, but I generally agree with you. As long as there is demand, there will be somebody meeting that demand. I don't have any particular problem with people selling drugs. I don't see that as being much of a crime, and I don't see it as some kind of shortcut to riches, or as being superior to coding. If I wanted to be in sales, I'd be in sales. If the chance of going to jail, or being whacked by a competitor is what turns you on with drugs, that's just a variation on the adrenaline junky. I'm not into that, either.

this is how you know now what is bad and what is not.. but think of it, what if they Taught you the other way ?
hope u agree with me now that these are just things that you started to learn since you was born.

Actually, I do not. While there is a certain amount of learning going on, the basic concept is not so much right and wrong as fair and not fair, which is a concept that appears to be genetic. Even Chimps can demonstrate that they understand the concept of what is and is not fair. Is that learned? Probably not if we, and our closest cousins, share this trait. We can learn empathy without going through the process that you described, as well. After all, that only requires concepts of self and other. If X hurts us, then we can decide not to do X to some other simply because we care about some other, not because we tried it and it made them angry. I would say that most compassionate people do this all the time. People even feel bad about hurting their cars, and other inanimate objects. They certainly didn't learn THAT response by whacking the car and watching the reaction.

[dunfiddlin]

selling drugs ? thats not a crime , you are not forcing anyone to use it , they come to you

No it's not a crime. It's round about 10 of them! And that's just for starters! You clearly don't know much about drugs or the drug trade if you really believe that nobody is hurt, that people 'volunteer' to be hurt in this way, and that dealers sit passively waiting for someone to happen have the notion to buy something like a costume jewelry store! Not only do dealers adopt aggressive marketing campaigns, they do so with just one goal. To get you addicted. I really do recommend that you read the Freakonomics chapter on drug dealing, y the way, if you also think that it's a trade where you can start at the top, your bosses won't be anything other than sweet charmers with vast people skills, and the customers are just falling over themselves to be courteous, honest, and undemanding!

[Shaggy Hiker]

by the way, if you also think that it's a trade where you can start at the top, your bosses won't be anything other than sweet charmers with vast people skills, and the customers are just falling over themselves to be courteous, honest, and undemanding!

That pretty much sums up the issue crime or not. There isn't ANY business where that is true, and dealing drugs is just a particularly stark example. It seems like the change desired was "be vastly wealthy without doing any particular work". Crime was offered up simply because it looked like a path to being wealthy without putting in much effort, or something. Frankly, I think the only alternative is inheritance, not crime.

[Niya]

Frankly, I think the only alternative is inheritance, not crime.

Ah, forget drug dealing. Fraud is a crime that pays a lot for relatively little effort. Allen Stanford and Bernie Madoff come to mind. Maybe someone out has figured out a way to defraud their way into an inheritance.

[Niya]

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