Yeah I understand what you mean, I have been in programming groups myself but they didn't work out. I don't plan to make this into something big at all, I just want to make a game or two in VB with some people to maybe learn something new and have fun at the same time. I don't plan to have group meetings and all that stuff, I just want to talk to them occasionally to see how progess is going on what we are working on. It won't be one of those strict groups that have all these rules and such, and that they don't let you put ideas in, they just tell you what to do and you do it kind of thing. I just want like a 4 or 5 person group that ALL have equal say in what we are creating, and maybe we can complete a project together. Nothing big...