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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:31 PM
#47441
Re: Post Race!
I would like a decent argument as to why I should support any liberal candidate/president.
Or better yet, why liberal ideas trump(no pun intended) conservative ones.
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:46 PM
#47442
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:46 PM
#47443
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:47 PM
#47444
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:47 PM
#47445
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:48 PM
#47446
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:48 PM
#47447
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:49 PM
#47448
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:49 PM
#47449
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:50 PM
#47450
Re: Post Race!
Liberalism is based on rational sensible thought and conservatism is based on religious nonsense.
Sorry but that's all I got. 
In all honesty, I tend not to get too caught up in talks about conservatism, or liberalism, feminism or any other -isms. These ideas are too divisive and only serve to cause strife between otherwise content people. Seems more like a plot by oligarchs to distract a population so they don't realize how badly they're getting shafted from the day they're born to the day they die.
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:50 PM
#47451
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:51 PM
#47452
Re: Post Race!
Chaisson. Pronounce Sha-sawn with long 'a'
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:52 PM
#47453
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Fruge. Pronounced f r OO - sz eh -or- fru gah
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:52 PM
#47454
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Boudreaux: Pronounced b oo - d r oh -or- Boo-drow
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:53 PM
#47455
Re: Post Race!
Fontenot: Pronounced f ah n t - n oh -or- font-no
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:55 PM
#47456
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Richard: Pronounced R EE - sh ah r d
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:56 PM
#47457
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Aucoin: Pronounced Oh - cwa
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:56 PM
#47458
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Belanger: Pronounced b eh l ae n j er
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:58 PM
#47459
Re: Post Race!
Champagne: Pronounced sh ae p ae
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:58 PM
#47460
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Savoie: Pronounced SAV- WA
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Jun 18th, 2013, 02:59 PM
#47461
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Trahan: Pronounced TRAW haw
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Jun 18th, 2013, 03:00 PM
#47462
Re: Post Race!
Dupuis: Pronounced Doo-pwee
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Jun 18th, 2013, 03:00 PM
#47463
Re: Post Race!
There's a lot more, but I can't think of some.
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Jun 18th, 2013, 03:01 PM
#47464
Re: Post Race!
 Originally Posted by Niya
Liberalism is based on rational sensible thought and conservatism is based on religious nonsense.
I disagree, but I'll leave it at that. I'm content with my last names rant I went on.
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Jun 18th, 2013, 03:20 PM
#47465
Re: Post Race!
 Originally Posted by dday9
I disagree, but I'll leave it at that. I'm content with my last names rant I went on.
Ok......moar mermaids ?
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Jun 18th, 2013, 03:26 PM
#47466
Re: Post Race!
Yeah. If you take the post-race political, that would just be bad.
However, I would have to say that anybody who can't find something to make fun of Trump about is either dead or worse.
My usual boring signature: Nothing
 
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Jun 18th, 2013, 03:34 PM
#47467
Re: Post Race!
 Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Yeah. If you take the post-race political, that would just be bad.
Worse....it would be pointless. My definition of politics is the proliferation of almost useless information, conjectures and statistics designed to dazzle a population into blindness so that they do not see how they are being ruthlessly extorted by a tiny fraction of that population.
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Jun 18th, 2013, 03:39 PM
#47468
Re: Post Race!
Ever think about why there are rich people in the world ? It is because over centuries of human development they have slowly created systems that enable the hoarding of resources on a massive scale. Politics is one of those things designed to keep people from paying too much attention to these systems. They're too busy fighting over who is liberal and who is conservative. Who is pro-choice or pro-life. If this politician or that is better at foreign policy.
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Jun 18th, 2013, 03:44 PM
#47469
Re: Post Race!
Now when I say rich....I don't mean petty millionaires. I'm talking billionaires. Why in God's name would any one person need such excessive resources. He can't possibly eat any better with 10 billion dollars than he can with 10 million. Systems that facilitate such massive hoarding at the hands of a single individual is grossly unjust especially when there are good people out there struggling for even the simplest necessities.
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Jun 18th, 2013, 03:48 PM
#47470
Re: Post Race!
Don't mistake me though, if I figure out the password to give me access to the system of hoarding(Rags to riches)....I would hoard my ass off. As unjust as it is, I'm not here to change the world, I'd exploit it just as quickly. I'm just not gonna pretend that its right.
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Jun 18th, 2013, 03:51 PM
#47471
Re: Post Race!
Ok....nuff of that nonsense.....Moar mermaids ?
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Jun 18th, 2013, 04:24 PM
#47472
Re: Post Race!
Donald Trump wears a toupee. Hehe.
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Jun 18th, 2013, 04:25 PM
#47473
Re: Post Race!
 Originally Posted by Niya
Don't mistake me though, if I figure out the password to give me access to the system of hoarding(Rags to riches)....I would hoard my ass off. As unjust as it is, I'm not here to change the world, I'd exploit it just as quickly. I'm just not gonna pretend that its right.
Is drowssap, but keep it a secret(says the guy posting this on the interweb)
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Jun 18th, 2013, 04:26 PM
#47474
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Jun 18th, 2013, 04:27 PM
#47475
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Jun 18th, 2013, 04:27 PM
#47476
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Jun 18th, 2013, 04:28 PM
#47477
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Jun 19th, 2013, 07:45 AM
#47478
Addicted Member
Re: Post Race!
 Originally Posted by Niya
Well if he doesn't heed his emperor's call then off with his head!!!
Do you realise how crazy you sound!
All men have an inherent right to life, the right to self determination including freedom from forced or compulsory labour, a right to hold opinions and the freedom of expression, and the right to a fair trial and freedom from torture. Be aware that these rights are universal and inalienable (cannot be given, taken or otherwise transferred or removed) although you do risk losing the aforementioned rights should you fail to uphold them e.g Charles Taylor; United Nations sources: http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/, http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Professional...ages/CCPR.aspx. Also Charles I was beheaded on the 30th of January of 1649 for trying to replace parliamentary democracy with an absolute monarchy, the same should happen to Dr Phil and Stephen Fry; source: http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...ute-Monarchism.
The plural of sun is stars you Catholic turkeys.
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Jun 19th, 2013, 07:46 AM
#47479
Addicted Member
Re: Post Race!
 Originally Posted by dday9
I would like a decent argument as to why I should support any liberal candidate/president.
Or better yet, why liberal ideas trump(no pun intended) conservative ones.
Liberalism (from French libéralisme circa 1818 < Latin liber "free") is focused on freedoms such as free and fair elections and the right to vote, little government, limited government powers e.g the separation of powers, trial by jury, civil rights, freedom of speech, association, the press, religion, markets and trade, etc. Liberalism rejects notions such as "hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, and the Divine Right of Kings"- Wiki. As a result liberalism also represents the right of the public to overthrow tyrants where ever they may be found.
Conservatism from the Latin servāre meaning "I watch over, maintain; I protect, keep, guard, save" usually refers to a risk adverse and slowly progressive society when used in relation to politics. "There is no single set of policies that are universally regarded as conservative, because the meaning of conservatism depends on what is considered traditional in a given place and time. Thus, conservatives from different parts of the world—each upholding their respective traditions—may disagree on a wide range of issues." - Wiki.
Historically conservatism represented the traditional hereditary aristocracy and was thus directly opposed to liberalism although liberalism, over time, was able to successfully replace those ideologies focusing on the centralization of power and is now viewed as the "dominant ideology of modern times" - Wiki. As a result in the United States a political conservative is now defined as "A person who favors decentralization of political power" (e.g -> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/political_conservative).
Liberalism at an international level led to the creation of the United Nations after World War II, and the emergence of an international federation called Liberal International which is based in England at 1 Whitehall Place, London, SW1A 2HD see -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_International Furthermore "most of the world's richest and most powerful nations are liberal democracies with extensive social welfare programs" - Wiki.
All men have an inherent right to life, the right to self determination including freedom from forced or compulsory labour, a right to hold opinions and the freedom of expression, and the right to a fair trial and freedom from torture. Be aware that these rights are universal and inalienable (cannot be given, taken or otherwise transferred or removed) although you do risk losing the aforementioned rights should you fail to uphold them e.g Charles Taylor; United Nations sources: http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/, http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Professional...ages/CCPR.aspx. Also Charles I was beheaded on the 30th of January of 1649 for trying to replace parliamentary democracy with an absolute monarchy, the same should happen to Dr Phil and Stephen Fry; source: http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...ute-Monarchism.
The plural of sun is stars you Catholic turkeys.
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Jun 19th, 2013, 07:52 AM
#47480
Addicted Member
Re: Post Race!
 Originally Posted by Niya
Liberalism is based on rational sensible thought and conservatism is based on religious nonsense.
Completely wrong!!
 Originally Posted by Niya
Sorry but that's all I got. 
You need to stop burning those books!
 Originally Posted by Niya
In all honesty, I tend not to get too caught up in talks about conservatism, or liberalism, feminism or any other -isms. These ideas are too divisive and only serve to cause strife between otherwise content people.
The less the public knows the better???
 Originally Posted by Niya
Seems more like a plot by oligarchs to distract a population so they don't realize how badly they're getting shafted from the day they're born to the day they die.
Well historically conservatism was linked to monarchies and oligarchies although both of those ideologies have since faded or died!
All men have an inherent right to life, the right to self determination including freedom from forced or compulsory labour, a right to hold opinions and the freedom of expression, and the right to a fair trial and freedom from torture. Be aware that these rights are universal and inalienable (cannot be given, taken or otherwise transferred or removed) although you do risk losing the aforementioned rights should you fail to uphold them e.g Charles Taylor; United Nations sources: http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/, http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Professional...ages/CCPR.aspx. Also Charles I was beheaded on the 30th of January of 1649 for trying to replace parliamentary democracy with an absolute monarchy, the same should happen to Dr Phil and Stephen Fry; source: http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...ute-Monarchism.
The plural of sun is stars you Catholic turkeys.
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