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  1. Mar 22nd, 2013, 03:30 PM #1
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    Resolved [RESOLVED] When declaring the <!DOCTYPE html> for html5 do you need the <html>

    I am changing my doctypes to html5
    <!DOCTYPE html>
    is the <html> tag still necessary ?
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  2. Mar 23rd, 2013, 02:12 AM #2
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    Re: When declaring the <!DOCTYPE html> for html5 do you need the <html>

    Yes.
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    Re: When declaring the <!DOCTYPE html> for html5 do you need the <html>

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    Re: When declaring the <!DOCTYPE html> for html5 do you need the <html>

    Hi there isnoend07,

    Actually, the HTML specification explicitly states that the HTML, HEAD and BODY tags are optional.

    These options do not apply to XHTML.

    Source:-


    This example code will validate...
    Code:
    
<!DOCTYPE html> 

<meta charset="utf-8">

<title>untitled document</title>

Hello world


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    Re: [RESOLVED] When declaring the <!DOCTYPE html> for html5 do you need the <html>

    Those links are for HTML4.01, not HTML5

    but you're right in that omitting the html, head, and body tags is still allowed by the HTML5 spec. Keep in mind that IE has a bug relating to omitted tags. And you're much less likely to have rendering problems if you don't omit any tags.
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    Re: [RESOLVED] When declaring the <!DOCTYPE html> for html5 do you need the <html>

    Hi there tr333,

    Personally, I am still coding HTM4.0.1 strict with the html, head and body
    tags included, unless specific HTML5 elements such as video are required.


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    Re: [RESOLVED] When declaring the <!DOCTYPE html> for html5 do you need the <html>

    Quote Originally Posted by coothead View Post
    Hi there tr333,

    Personally, I am still coding HTM4.0.1 strict with the html, head and body
    tags included, unless specific HTML5 elements such as video are required.
    Sure, but the original question did ask about HTML5
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