Check for new version

**rockies1** · Jul 18th, 2001, 01:55 PM

I want my application to check for new versions of itself by looking for the a file on the net, and reading its contents...

Anyone have any pointers on how to go about doing this?

Thanks!

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 03:01 AM

Use the winsock control to connect to a webserver and request the file.

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:01 AM

Or the INet control, this way It will work over more proxies.

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:02 AM

Well its not that the winsock control wont allow the connection to be proxied, you just have to do the programming yourself

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:06 AM

Just means the proxy will have to be set up

Also, isnt the other post that I replied to your answer the same as this? :confuseD:

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:08 AM

emmmm the other post's about the microsoft tabular data control or summin'

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:13 AM

lol, me just getting confused again, as per usall

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:14 AM

and oh my god they gave you an sbs server to administer.... god help us all

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:20 AM

I admin all servers here

we are getting a new server.... ahhhh TODAY!!!!!!!!! WAH!!!! (was supposed to be here yesturday

)

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:22 AM

whats the spec ?

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:32 AM

Well where getting two... the one were getting first is...

PIII Xeon977Mhz (Has a dual processor mobo)
512Mb (up to 4Gb)
at the moment 3 x 38Gb HDDS (upto 12 hotplug)

the next one which will replace our PDC will be the same but double, but with only 2 HDDs as we dont need space on it.

also two laptops for new directors too, they always have to have the fastest.... 1Ghz

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:34 AM

You bastard.
I;m not talking to you anymore

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:40 AM

MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:43 AM

You shouldnt have gotten P-III Xeons, you should have just gone for Xeons. The newer Xeon's have dropped the Pentium prefix.

And I would imagine that a P4 would be faster than a xeon, even for server tasks .......... also, an itanium would be nice

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:51 AM

Aint seen P4 on quad board yet, which is weird.. and they wouldnt support NT4 that well anyways

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:54 AM

I though you'd of gone to 2000 if you're getting a new server.

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 04:58 AM

It costs alot to licence for our users, And we dont need 2000 anyways.... we do have 2000 server machines but they are running IIS and some scanning services, and the other is a SQL server which is just setting up now

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 05:00 AM

Well in Ireland here, if you ring microsoft (+353 1 4502113) and say you want to buy licenses etc. they tell you to ask for Jamie in everyman computers.

Tada moi

So if you want a good price on licenses, just let me know

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 05:03 AM

well about how much for 50 concurrent users?

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 05:06 AM

50 concurrent users under what application ?
Do you have a sample price for me to beat ?

And do you want to add 50 users to this server application, or do you want a price on a server application with 50 users ?

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 05:09 AM

Well 50 licences for win2000 server, with the application

Also, for exchange server 2000

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 05:16 AM

Code:

CAL = Client Access License
A license required for each client that will be accessing the server

Windows 2000 Server w/25 CALs             1670.00
Windows 2000 Additional CALs                30.00

Exchange Server 2000 Standard w/25 CALs   1290.00
Exchange Server 2000 Additional CALs        68.00

Now obviously there's a little room for negotiation, and its also assuming you're not upgrading. Let me know what you think...
Prices are ex-VAT and in IEP also.

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 05:24 AM

I know what CAL is

Well at the momemt we have NT4.5 SBS Backoffice with 45 CAL's

We have Exchange server 4.5 which is with SBS

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 05:31 AM

In that case, I'd do this :

Code:

BackOffice SBS 2000 Upgrade                 705.00
BackOffice SBS 2000 Upgrade CALs 5 Pack     115.00

So you'd upgrade the server, and you would also have to upgrade you CALs..

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 05:54 AM

ah, sounds nice

It would be about 2 months at least if we did...i will let you know

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 06:17 AM

Okay well in two months the prices might be off the wall.
But if you're ever getting licensing quotes, get a quote off me too, and I will undercut your other quotes.

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 06:27 AM

Cheers mate

I know the prices might change in that time, but its the arkward directors

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 06:35 AM

Well they're totally changing their licensing from the start of october. There wont be any upgrades allowed.

You'll have to buy full products from that time forth.

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 10:02 AM

Yea I heard about that

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 10:04 AM

So get your order in quick

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 10:28 AM

Nah

None of us are certified here, Im learning it on my own accord at the moment, and soon I will be off for my MCSE.... but when that is I dont know.

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 10:29 AM

What do you have to be certified for ?

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 10:35 AM

Did mean I *had* to be, Just I dont use it on a every day basis like NT4, so I aint that strong it in yet, I should atleast do a course on it really

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 10:47 AM

Oh right.
Well here's something you might be interested in.

All microsoft licenses are backwards compatible.
So a 2000 server licenses covers nt server, and an office xp licesnes covers office 97.

So you can buy your SBS 2000 licenses now, and they will cover you for any additional SBS4.5 things you need, and then when you want to start using SBS2000, you buy the media kit for £35.00, and the licenses will cover that too.

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 10:56 AM

Ah ah ah, you SALESMAN

sales people cant work me down

**plenderj** · Jul 19th, 2001, 11:14 AM

Well ya know, a few months down the line you'll be paying a number of times the current price just for the same products !

chenko · Jul 19th, 2001, 12:07 PM

See trying again

The price is not really an issue, the timing is the most important

**plenderj** · Jul 20th, 2001, 01:57 AM

Well mention that the price isnt an issue when you come back to me and I'll do you a ... er ... 'deal'

chenko · Jul 20th, 2001, 03:46 AM

Well you will not be the only person I would talk to anyways

**plenderj** · Jul 20th, 2001, 03:54 AM

I will undercut any price you have.
All resellers have to buy off the same distribution channel, so if you tell me what you've been quoted, I'll do it cheaper !

I can requote you on the spot.

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