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    Calculate the speed of light.

    If an object traveling 75% of the speed of light and head on to a light travel towards to the object (and we all know that speed of light is constant(300 km/s)). What is the calculation that make the speed of light(300 km/s) constant? I mean how to derive in mathematical way that made the speed of light constant?

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    Re: Calculate the speed of light.

    I don't think there is a mathematical way of deriving the speed of light.(You could rearrange e=mc^2 but i'm not sure where you would get your values from then)
    I think scientists simply used equipment to mesure how long it takes for white light travel distance x and did a simple calculation to figure out it's value.
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    Re: Calculate the speed of light.

    Actually you guys have it backwards. Speed is a measurement based on distance and time and the metric of distance itself is derived from this. Distance when expressed in a denomination of metres is actually in terms of the speed of light itself. Make sense ?

    To clarify, you don't measure how fast light travels and then say its x metres per second. You measure it and say a metre is how far light travels in a second(Actually its how far it travels in approximately 1/3 of a second in a vacuum).

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    In a perfectly logical world, if by some magic the speed of light were to double then logically a metre would now be equal to twice what it was before of course we wouldn't accept this because it would probably break a lot of things. More realistically, we would probably redefine it in terms of something else.

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    Thing you need to realize about measurements is that it doesn't correspond with anything absolute. It is simply used to express how a property of one thing relates to the same property of another.

    I could make up a unit of measurement and say today that the speed of light is 100 Niyans. Would I be wrong ? Not really. If I were to measure the speed of a comet or something and discovered that it is traveling at 10 % the speed of light, measured in my fictional "Niyans" it would be traveling at 10 Niyans. If I were decided to declare the speed of light to be 1500 Niyans then our comet would be traveling at a speed of 150 Niyans. Did the comet start traveling faster ? No, I just changed the units used to measure the relationship between the speed of the comet and the speed of light. The speed of light serves as a sort of reference point and since nothing is known to go faster, it makes the perfect reference from which we can derive units of measure.

    I hope that makes sense.
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    Re: Calculate the speed of light.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlindSniper View Post
    I don't think there is a mathematical way of deriving the speed of light
    There is something faster than the speed of light and that is the speed at which my wife finds out I've received a bonus at work.

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    Re: Calculate the speed of light.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niya View Post
    You measure it and say a metre is how far light travels in a second(Actually its how far it travels in approximately 1/3 of a second in a vacuum).
    So light travels at 3 metres per second? Marvellous - I could outrun it!
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    Re: Calculate the speed of light.

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    Re: Calculate the speed of light.

    Oh s**t. Was kinda sleepy when I wrote that. I was stupidly thinking in terms of decimal fractions. Its actually 1/299,792,458 of a second which I rounded to 1/3 something I admit is super retarded. Can't believe I made such a huge mistake.
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