[RESOLVED] !! About the new type of Single Language MSDN that I am making for Microsoft !!

[honeybee]

With whatever respect I can muster for your work, and this is probably my most serious post on this thread, why do you still want to work with VB6?

By the time you are done, there won't be anyone who 'can' run your code and give you any feedback. The world will have moved on to VS2011 or maybe F#.

Switching to dotnet, you at least stand some chance, even though you may be only doing it to please yourself.

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[ThEiMp]

I still want to work with Visual Basic, because of the fact that it is able to do what I want it to do. Also I know how to use it, I must go back to University to learn C#, or then as someone has been able to say that now there is: F#, now...

[baja_yu]

You do know that there are books out there on C# and all other programming languages that you can read to learn, right? Also, just because F comes after C doesn't mean that F# is something new to replace C#. It's a completely different ball game, a language geared towards the functional programming paradigm.

[FunkyDexter]

Agreed. You really don't need to go back to university to learn .Net or C#. VBForums is among the best learning routes available for these languages... and it's completely free! Of course, you have to want to learn.

[ThEiMp]

Oh really, that's really good. To hear that people are willing to help each other even in the programming field of information technology...

[ThEiMp]

I think that I need a personal or business loan to purchase this type of software, agreed???

[ThEiMp]

Well I am no hack, if that means a software pirate, but then I am not sure what that means in this context???

[honeybee]

I still want to work with Visual Basic, because of the fact that it is able to do what I want it to do. Also I know how to use it, I must go back to University to learn C#, or then as someone has been able to say that now there is: F#, now...

You do know that there are books out there on C# and all other programming languages that you can read to learn, right?

Agreed. You really don't need to go back to university to learn .Net or C#.

I think that I need a personal or business loan to purchase this type of software, agreed???

Please tell me you haven't been sitting in a cave with a Pentium MMX machine connected only to VB Forums! Microsoft has been releasing Express editions of the Visual Studio, so you can pick any Express version of the programming language of your choice. Have you been hibernating all these years?

And you don't even need books to learn anything. Nowadays that job is handled by Google. I sometimes fear that if Google were to go out of business (now that's a very distant possibility) or if our internet connection were to go down (nearer than the earlier one), today's programmers won't be able to solve many of the programming issues they face everyday. They are so much used to Google, they can't survive without it.

So if you have an internet connection you can not only download one of (or all of) the free Express editions of Visual Studio .Net but also browse enough sites to write a book about it yourself. Just make sure it's more focussed than Battle Programming.

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[ThEiMp]

Well guess what I went for a Personal Loan, and then was able to go for a personal load for the special $5000(AUD), that I needed to purchase: Microsoft Visual Studio.NET 2010 and then was able to then install it on my Penitum IV, which isn't a Pentium MMX for that matter. If you were wanting to know that, for instance...

PS: Having problems with the Source Code, converter as per say that it isn't allowing me to convert my VB6 COM Source Code Project Files, then that means that it totally sucks, chockers because it isn't allowing me to do this, as what the other programmers have been able to do so in the pervious versions of the products. That I have been told before, hand...

[baja_yu]

I'm beginning to think that this is Yotamarker talking.

[namrekka]

I'm beginning to think that this is Yotamarker talking.

Is Moti back?

[FunkyDexter]

Well guess what I went for a Personal Loan, and then was able to go for a personal load for the special $5000(AUD), that I needed to purchase: Microsoft Visual Studio.NET 2010

Seriously?! After we told you that it was free you still went and paid for it?! Why?! Why would you do that?! There aren't enough exclamation marks in the world to fully express my exasperation.

[Chris001]

Well guess what I went for a Personal Loan, and then was able to go for a personal load for the special $5000(AUD), that I needed to purchase: Microsoft Visual Studio.NET 2010 and then was able to then install it on my Penitum IV, which isn't a Pentium MMX for that matter. If you were wanting to know that, for instance...

PS: Having problems with the Source Code, converter as per say that it isn't allowing me to convert my VB6 COM Source Code Project Files, then that means that it totally sucks, chockers because it isn't allowing me to do this, as what the other programmers have been able to do so in the pervious versions of the products. That I have been told before, hand...

Here's the same reply I gave to you in your other thread:



Microsoft has officially ended support for VB6 4 years ago (April 8, 2008).

You had almost 10 years to switch to .NET and now your are complaining that the VB6 to VB.NET converter doesn't exist anymore in VS2010? Well, boohoo...

Even if you could convert a VB6 project to VB.NET with VS2010.... both are two different languages and only the most basic "Hello World!" type of projects can be converted correctly. Any medium size project will generate hundreds of errors and warnings that need to be fixed. Fixing them takes often a lot more time than rewriting everything from scratch.

You can try the commercial VBto Converter, but I'm sure you'll come back here whining that it didn't convert your project properly...

Why did you buy VS2010? There is a free Express version that can do 98% of what the commercial version of VS2010 can do, which was already explained to you in your troll thread in the Chit/Chat forum.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I'll also add what I put in the other thread (but only because I want to stay relevant): You would be so totally dissapointed with the converter that you are better off without it. You may be frustrated by it not being there, but that is nothing when compared to the frustration you would have felt if it HAD been there. The thing sucked. Nobody ever recommended using it for anything other than the most trivial projects, and your project isn't even close to being that trivial.

So, where does that leave you: It leaves you with less work to do, because you re-write. The reason it is less work is that the converter made such a mess out of your code that you would spend at least as much time fixing the mess, yet you would feel compelled to do so because it had done so much work that looked valuable.

What you will find out is that re-writing isn't as bad as it sounds. The forms are considerably different in .NET, but most of that is hidden from you, as it was in VB6. The event handlers look similar, and you can copy code from the old to the new. I found that re-writing a significant VB6 project took only a tiny fraction of the time that writing from scratch took, because I was a ble to copy in functions and function bodies, then turn them into working code with minimal changes.

It isn't as bad as you might fear, and is probably better than the converter would have done.

[thebuffalo]

So wait, you just bought Visual Studio 2010 (professional I'm assuming?) to write an IDE/Compiler/Whatever for VB 6? I still don't even know what you're trying to accomplish, I don't see how 2 different contexts of english can have such a language barrier.

[ThEiMp]

Well it's an IDE, however I scratch wrote an app, which is called: CodePad, which is the one that features only the CodeBox section of the Visual Suite's QuickDirector IDE. But then yes, I had bought the professional version of the Visual Studio 2010 edition. Also it runs pretty slow on my machine, seeing that there are so many of my projects are on it, and then they are also working in the background of the system, nearly everytime I get on the Net to do work, etc...

[thebuffalo]

Looks like you need a new machine too! I am willing to sell you for this one time offer, my Asus G74sx 12gb of JESUSLIKE RAM, i7 HOLYDEATHMACHINE processor, and 2x 500gb hardrives, all for this one-time low price of $2000 + shipping.
Comes with a free version of Visual Studio C#/C++ Express, real nice.

[ThEiMp]

Doesn't the Express version have an expiriy date process found inside it??? If so then I don't want to even download it from a pirate website!!

PS: I have purchased the edition of Visual Studio Professional 2010, but then found that it totally sucks chockers, because of the failed attempt to win myself and then the other countless millions of computer programmers around the world. So then I am going to wait until there is a patch to fix this problem, or even on the other hand I am going to ask Microsoft to rectify this problem of ours, in the Morning. Because of the time slip here, I'm not going to do so at midnight in Perth, WA!!

[thebuffalo]

Express is 100% free from Microsoft.

[baja_yu]

Doesn't the Express version have an expiriy date process found inside it??? If so then I don't want to even download it from a pirate website!!

PS: I have purchased the edition of Visual Studio Professional 2010, but then found that it totally sucks chockers, because of the failed attempt to win myself and then the other countless millions of computer programmers around the world. So then I am going to wait until there is a patch to fix this problem, or even on the other hand I am going to ask Microsoft to rectify this problem of ours, in the Morning. Because of the time slip here, I'm not going to do so at midnight in Perth, WA!!

Just a quick digression. Are you by any chance using Google to translate what you are writing in some other language? If not, then this must be Moti's Yotamarker, no human can write like this.

[Niya]

Just a quick digression. Are you by any chance using Google to translate what you are writing in some other language? If not, then this must be Moti's Yotamarker, no human can write like this.

I was wondering that since page 1, just didn't have the audacity to ask for the risk of it sounding like an insult.

[jcis]

It might be a bot, like this one

Edit: Or this one

[thebuffalo]

"This is a re-times and do something meaningful in any way to translate any more until there is what happens" Google translate from "This is what happens when I re-translate something over and over until there is no possible way of it meaning anything."

" because of the failed attempt to win myself " Please explain further on this..

[Shaggy Hiker]

I'd have to agree with the previous posters. That's gotta be one of the most meaningless strings of words put forth anywhere outside of the Golden Chair. I haven't the first idea what you are talking about. Normally, I can guess, and I am quite tolerant of typos, but that was spelled ok, I think, it just wasn't the right words.

[akhileshbc]

@ThEiMp: You bought a new VS2010 Pro Edition by taking a loan ?
You have done a big mistake !!

You should have spent that money to buy a better PC than your existing Pentium one. VS2010 would require atleast a better config to work flawlessly. Otherwise, there might be a little bit hanging or something.

See the system requirements for VS2010 Pro: http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudi...m-requirements

As many of us have pointed out, the Express Edition is completely free. You could have get it freely downloaded directly from MS's site: See this page for products available for free download.... (or download the ISO of VS2010 Express Edition from here)
If you don't want the whole bundle of languages, you could only download the necessary languages.

Another thing is, Microsoft is also having another initiative called DreamSpark: https://www.dreamspark.com
They are providing some Pro products for completely free(for students and educators). I have got a copy of VS2008 Pro via this(with some other MS products too, in a DVD). You should have checked that too !!

Hope this will help you next time.

[honeybee]

I must say if it's Yotamarker, the quality of the output seems to have improved a little. Now the number of posts making sense seems to have increased slightly in comparison with the number of posts not making sense.

Congrats on buying the latest VS 2010 Pro which you didn't need anyways and then installing it on a Pentium IV. You sure are from the stone age.

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[penagate]

Well guess what I went for a Personal Loan, and then was able to go for a personal load for the special $5000(AUD), that I needed to purchase: Microsoft Visual Studio.NET 2010 and then was able to then install it on my Penitum IV, which isn't a Pentium MMX for that matter.

I am convinced you are 100% taking the Michael. I'd play along but it isn't really funny.

[FunkyDexter]

I am convinced you are 100% taking the Michael.

To be honest, I'd have said the same if I hadn't checked out the site and downloaded some of the products. If this is trolling it's some of the most heavily pre-engineered trolling I've ever seen.

I think it's probably just down to being Australian



edit> wait, how much is 5000 australian dollars worth in stirling? I didn't actually pick up on that before but that's a heeuuuuge amount isn't it?

edit2> Holy Hell! That would be close to 10 grand. 'Nuff Said.

[thebuffalo]

If this is trolling it's some of the most heavily pre-engineered trolling I've ever seen.

This. I don't think anyone who knows the english language could possibly butcher it like that, even if it's Australian english.

[FunkyDexter]

Also, it could be Austrian rather than Australian. And you don't want to upset Austrians. That can lead to all sorts of trouble.

[thebuffalo]

können Sie verstehen, was ich sage? wenn nicht, dann jetzt wissen Sie, wie alle diese Botschaften lesen, fühlt theImp

That was a sad google translate, If he is austrian, that is austrian german

[baja_yu]

Didn't he mention that he's from (or in) Perth? Unless there's a lesser known Perth in Austria, he's from or in Australia. But judging by his english, I'm inclined to say in rather than from.

[thebuffalo]

Yes, He could be a millionaire that moved to Australia and programs for fun, hence why he is giving this program to Microsoft for free

[honeybee]

Yeah, but then you never know if he is really from/in Perth.

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[DirtyHowi]

20 minutes i will never get back.......

[thebuffalo]

20 minutes i will never get back.......

That's how I felt when I first read this, now I just want to know what he's getting at.

[baja_yu]

20 minutes i will never get back.......

Just be glad you haven't met Moti Barski yet. You'd need a lot more than 20 minutes.

EDIT: Herem just to give you a taste of what you're missing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEcPY...9&feature=plcp

[ThEiMp]

Hey what is wrong???

I am from Perth, WA and also that I really did purchase the legaliszed format of Visual Studio .NET. However I was given Visual Studio 6.00 when my former company purchased it for their machines, which was about thirteen years ago!!

[penagate]

I'm surprised that you took out a loan to purchase software. That's a poor use of finance. Software is not an asset — it is just money down the drain. And even if you had the cash for VS2010, why not just use the free Express Editions until you find yourself needing the whole Visual Studio? And why $5k? The Professional release with an MSDN subscription is only $2k.

Also, as far as software goes, Visual Studio is a total pig — you're going to be spending half your life waiting for it. You should have spent $1k on a new machine instead just like akhileshbc said.

Oh well, I hope you're at least having fun doing whatever it is you're doing.

[namrekka]

Just be glad you haven't met Moti Barski yet.[/url]

I must admit I miss him arround here.