ViewState enabled=false no affect?

[Webskater]

I've learnt something new too

The other thing I was thinking was instead of refrencing/using datakeys in grid.databound event refrence the dataSource with

If DataBinder.Eval(e.Row.DataItem, "ID").ToString() = "xxx" then ......

I'll give that a try - thanks again.

I'm going to try using html controls too - I habitually use <asp:Label , textbox, dropdownlist etc and populate them from the DataKeyNames collection - if I use html controls I can control the nomenclature and give them very short names. Although the page is now very fast - I do have fast broadband and the page is still pretty huge to be honest. Looking at .net's naming of controls probably explains about half the size of the html.