Super Size Me

[Lord Orwell]

I realize this is an older movie, but i just saw it due to the reviews i read. All i can say is the reviewers are full of crap. "Shows effects of fast food on a human's body" etc etc.

Why didn't any of them pick up on the facts that:
1. He was walking 5 miles a day and exercising daily before the 30 day period and quit doing any sort of physical activity, even walking, for those days.
2. He was overeating by the extreme, to the point that the first meal he ate he actually puked it back up again. A normal human being is going to stop eating when they are full.

I don't care WHAT a person eats for 30 days. If they quadruple their calorie intake while stopping exercise, their body will go to hell.

Even the doctors in on the show said "your lympocytes might go up, other than that you shouldn't have any ill effects". Of course they didn't know he'd be overeating and stopping all physical activity.

This movie is just a large scare-tactic put forth by what amounts to a vegan, has no scientific basis for the results he claims (because of the actual cause), and all in all, was probably designed from the gound up to help someone win a lawsuit.

I am in a unique situation to critique his results. As a mcdonalds employee,i eat two employee meals a day. I have actually lost 5 lbs since working there.

[Shaggy Hiker]

A normal human being is going to stop eating when they are full.

Oh, that explains it. I knew I was doing something wrong.

[baja_yu]

What are you doing working at McDonald's?

[MartinLiss]

I realize this is an older movie, but i just saw it due to the reviews i read. All i can say is the reviewers are full of crap. "Shows effects of fast food on a human's body" etc etc.

Why didn't any of them pick up on the facts that:
1. He was walking 5 miles a day and exercising daily before the 30 day period and quit doing any sort of physical activity, even walking, for those days.
2. He was overeating by the extreme, to the point that the first meal he ate he actually puked it back up again. A normal human being is going to stop eating when they are full.

I don't care WHAT a person eats for 30 days. If they quadruple their calorie intake while stopping exercise, their body will go to hell.

Even the doctors in on the show said "your lympocytes might go up, other than that you shouldn't have any ill effects". Of course they didn't know he'd be overeating and stopping all physical activity.

This movie is just a large scare-tactic put forth by what amounts to a vegan, has no scientific basis for the results he claims (because of the actual cause), and all in all, was probably designed from the gound up to help someone win a lawsuit.

I am in a unique situation to critique his results. As a mcdonalds employee,i eat two employee meals a day. I have actually lost 5 lbs since working there.

And your arteries are clogging up as we speak.

[kregg]

I am in a unique situation to critique his results. As a mcdonalds employee,i eat two employee meals a day. I have actually lost 5 lbs since working there.

Unique != not biased. In fact, this makes your opinion heavily biased and I can't take any of your previous points seriously because of this.

If you had said you were a customer, fine, it would be somewhat biased, but OK. The fact you say you work there makes this incredibly biased. The only way you can make this unbiased if you've had a lifestyle of eating fresh fruit and vegetables for X months/years, and then for the next X months/years, you ate McDonalds employee meals.

Also, a final point, just because you've lost weight, doesn't mean you are entirely healthy. A diabetic can go on an all-syrup diet and can potentially loose weight, but that doesn't mean he is any healthier.

[moti barski]

years ago when I used to eat McDonalds I couldn't even do 10 push ups or run more then 3 minutes and the mcCrap would be thrown up 1 of 3 times and many times gave me headaches
now I do 120 push ups a day

[baja_yu]

I only do push ups if I fall down. And even then doing just one is enough for me. Maybe I'm just better at it then others who need to do a lot in order to get up.

[Lord Orwell]

my unique perspective is the fact i get my blood tested twice a week.

I am at mcdonalds for the flexible schedule it gives. I am entering college in two months.

[moti barski]

my unique perspective is the fact i get my blood tested twice a week.

I am at mcdonalds for the flexible schedule it gives. I am entering college in two months.

hope you haven't payed yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZtX32sKVE

[baja_yu]

While there's truth to that story, there's also a lot of bull. Yes you can learn a lot of stuff on your own, and yes you can run a business and make money without college. But society is not just about making money and being a business man. Would you let a self-taught surgeon operate on you? I don't think so.

[moti barski]

I saw a show of deformed women who were operated by a registered doctor with a lot of official diplomas
saw a diffrent show with a self tought doctor that advised to a lot of doctors and patients

how many doctors cut of legs of diabetics instead of using a pressure chamber

[baja_yu]

Yeah, sure. Next time I need something I'm going to a shaman or a tribe's whitch doctor. Or maybe Rasputin can give me some of his magical white powder that turned out to be Aspirin or whatnot.

Colleges in US are overpriced, I give you that. But all that is not really the problem. People are the problem.

Again, yes, you can learn on your own, but you have to want to learn. You have to have a very strong interest in the matter to do it, and on that level. And you have to be smart. Lets face it, not everyone is smart enough for everything. People today have way to high opinions of them selves and way too high expectations. Not everyone is cut out to be a doctor, a scientist, an economist etc. Someone has to be a factory worker, a welder, a driver... But no. You keep telling your kids "you can be anything you want to be if you set your mind to it". No you can't! What you just did there is set your kid up for a lifetime of unhappiness because he/she will never achieve what you told him he can. And somehow it's shameful today to be a blue color worker. Everyone thinks of themselves as future millionaires, they just didn't get their break.

I'm sorry but that's how the world is. Only about 3% of people attending college actually have the desire to learn on their own. A lot of the rest probably don't even know what they want out of life.

[Max Peck]

The main problem is, as the video points out, is this: We universally try to shove everybody into the college path regardless of whether that's the correct path or not. It's not an issue that going to college is bad, per-se, it's the expectation that everybody should go there.

You want to be a surgeon? Yeah, you need to go to Medical School. (College).
You want to be a successful entrepreneur? Not necessarily so.

Like everything else it's a matter of using the right tool to do the job. College, if used as the right tool, can be a good thing. However, the college system has become like a hammer: to the hammer everything looks like a nail.

My 2-cents.

-Max

[baja_yu]

I'd also trust the documentary more if it wasn't pushing silver and gold all the time. I've seen a lot of this lately. Who's to say they aren't deliberately spreading fear to push gold and silver demand higher and thus the price.
It starts ok but quickly gets a very prominent subtext, which by the end is the main story. The education system and colleges aren't the real story here. Instead they use it as an introduction to push a very different agenda on you.

[Lord Orwell]

hope you haven't payed yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZtX32sKVE

That's fine and dandy. My youtube channel has mc hammer doing the hampster dance. I call it mc hampster. The point is, anyone can upload to youtube. As a matter of fact, private schools are very expensive, but i'll be attending a public school and the federal grants i qualify for will actually give me about $4000 more than the school costs. Plus a side effect of working for mcdonalds is tuition reimbursement whether or not i actually pay any, as long as i keep a 2.0 or higher gpa.

I saw a show of deformed women who were operated by a registered doctor with a lot of official diplomas
saw a diffrent show with a self tought doctor that advised to a lot of doctors and patients

how many doctors cut of legs of diabetics instead of using a pressure chamber

Pressure chambers won't help you if your leg is dead. Gan Green sets in and if amputation isn't performed, it will kill you.

I'd also trust the documentary more if it wasn't pushing silver and gold all the time. I've seen a lot of this lately. Who's to say they aren't deliberately spreading fear to push gold and silver demand higher and thus the price.
It starts ok but quickly gets a very prominent subtext, which by the end is the main story. The education system and colleges aren't the real story here. Instead they use it as an introduction to push a very different agenda on you.

Glenn Beck moonlights as a gold salesman. 'nuff said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1022

[Max Peck]

I'd also trust the documentary more if it wasn't pushing silver and gold all the time. I've seen a lot of this lately. Who's to say they aren't deliberately spreading fear to push gold and silver demand higher and thus the price.
It starts ok but quickly gets a very prominent subtext, which by the end is the main story. The education system and colleges aren't the real story here. Instead they use it as an introduction to push a very different agenda on you.

Concur. It's hard to draw concrete conclusions from one presentation like this, however there's enough there to give you some pause and to really think about dealing with college and whether or not it's the right path in your situation.

-Max

[baja_yu]

And just a note. Even if it comes to that point and the economy spirals into a hyperinflation, it wont be the end of the world where "a select few Americans who invest all they have in gold and silver" are able to survive and everyone else dies, like the presenter would have you think. Take it from someone who lived through one of the worst hyperinflations where are denominations reached the point of a 500 billion banknote. It's not an apocalypse, there's no riot gangs, looting, people starving and eating each other in the streets. Your currency becomes worthless paper and you just cope with other means, usually by switching to a more stable foreign currency. For us it was the Deutch Mark. It's not a walk in the park, but like everything it ends.
And even if somehow every economy in the world ends up in hyperinflation, we didn't evolve with money in our pockets (we didn't evolve with pockets either), so if it happens, god forbid, we'll cope.

[honeybee]

I am in a unique situation to critique his results. As a mcdonalds employee,i eat two employees a day. I have actually lost 5 employees since working there.

No wonder. Dunno if eating McDonald employees is as bad as eating their fast food.

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[moti barski]

I agree with #14

[NeedSomeAnswers]

This movie is just a large scare-tactic put forth by what amounts to a vegan, has no scientific basis for the results he claims (because of the actual cause), and all in all, was probably designed from the gound up to help someone win a lawsuit.

I have seen the movie, and while i agree there is very little scientific about his experiment, the fact the McDonalds food is unhealthy should be of no surprise to anyone.

McDonalds food along with pretty much all takeaway fast food has a high calorie and fat content, and is also high in salt.

Eating it will not kill you or even harm you in moderation (as long as you eat decent food generally), but i thought that his (Morgan Spurlock's) whole premise is there are people who live of this junk and living JUST off McDonald's is not good not good at all.

I am in a unique situation to critique his results. As a mcdonalds employee,i eat two employee meals a day. I have actually lost 5 lbs since working there.

Yes being a McDonalds employee does give you a unique insight and also a biased one. You sound like you are almost proud of it ??!! (the eating 2 employee meals a day part)

my unique perspective is the fact i get my blood tested twice a week.

I went for an MRI scan the other day but my perspective remains unchanged.

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[Hack]

Don't the tooth picks get stuck in your throat?

[BackWoodsCoder]

but i thought that his (Morgan Spurlock's) whole premise is there are people who live of this junk and living JUST off McDonald's is not good not good at all.

Actually, if you followed your dietary schedule and didn't consume more than what you needed, eating mcdonalds every day is no worse for you than eating anything else. Fat is fat, sugar is sugar, salt is salt, it doesn't matter if it comes from a greasy fast food burger, a family sized bag of doritos, or the tacos you made yourself for dinner. The problem with people eating at fast food places is that there's no moderation, a lot of people have trouble ordering a small size (I know I do), and when it comes to getting your chicken fried or grilled we go for the fried stuff. There's lots of healthier choices on fast food menus that most people just don't take simply because they go to these places to get the food that's bad for them. Not only that but how many people eat until they are just stuffed, rather than eating only what they need? That was my biggest hurdle when I started trying to lose weight, simply overeating is enough to cause you to pack on pounds.

Fast food seems to be just like any other major vice we have. In small doses it's ok, maybe not the best thing to do for yourself, but it's not going to kill you. Make it a habit and it slowly starts to affect you until you can't get through a doorway without special equipment. The movie wasn't really an eye opener for me, you don't really need a degree to understand that eating fast food 3 squares a day will make you gain some pounds. I never really understood why people were so shocked and what not when it released, it just wasn't all that special for me. I actually think the hour long tv shows he did for FX were much better than his film.

[abhijit]

years ago when I used to eat McDonalds I couldn't even do 10 push ups or run more then 3 minutes and the mcCrap would be thrown up 1 of 3 times and many times gave me headaches
now I do 120 push ups a day

I only do push ups if I fall down. And even then doing just one is enough for me. Maybe I'm just better at it then others who need to do a lot in order to get up.

I just wait for someone who's passing to pick me up. I can't be bothered to do push ups. My unique perspective is that if I feel the need to exercise, I lie down till the feeling passes away.

[Hack]

if I feel the need to exercise, I lie down till the feeling passes away.

Clearly you are my brother from another mother.

[honeybee]

I have a keychain that reads:

Why exercise and punish my body













for something my mouth did?



I picked it up myself, for myself.

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Don't the tooth picks get stuck in your throat?

The fat creates a smooth lubricant around the edges of the tooth pick and they slide down my oesophagus like a raw sardines.

[NeedSomeAnswers]

Actually, if you followed your dietary schedule and didn't consume more than what you needed, eating mcdonalds every day is no worse for you than eating anything else.

That just a load of B*****ks, McDonald's meals are missing a whole bunch of other nutrients, Vitamins & minerals which help your body remain healthy, otherwise why don't Athletes eat McDonald's?

Fat is fat, sugar is sugar, salt is salt

Wrong, there are different types of Fat, for instance Trans-fats which your body cannot break down EVER it can never get rid of Trans-fats as it cant break them down a bit like Herpes they NEVER leave you. (and yes McDonalds still contain Trans-fats)

As for Salt, virtually all fast foods have absolutely tons of Salt in them, as adding Salt to something generally is seen to improve the flavour, and having the same amount of McDonald's as homes cooked food you would eat a ton more salt, which is just not good for you.

Anyone who even tries to suggest that eating McDonald's all the time is fine or good for you Basically works for McDonald's or is clueless about food.

[Shaggy Hiker]

my unique perspective is the fact i get my blood tested twice a week.

For WHAT?????

To ensure that you still have some? Are you participating in some kind of experiment?

[Lord Orwell]

I have seen the movie, and while i agree there is very little scientific about his experiment, the fact the McDonalds food is unhealthy should be of no surprise to anyone.

McDonalds food along with pretty much all takeaway fast food has a high calorie and fat content, and is also high in salt.

Eating it will not kill you or even harm you in moderation (as long as you eat decent food generally), but i thought that his (Morgan Spurlock's) whole premise is there are people who live of this junk and living JUST off McDonald's is not good not good at all.



Yes being a McDonalds employee does give you a unique insight and also a biased one. You sound like you are almost proud of it ??!! (the eating 2 employee meals a day part)

the way you phrased that makes me think you look down on fast food workers. I've worked in restaurants since 1991 off and on and this is the first thread i've even mentioned it in. I must be so proud! It's a job like any other, is a lot more flexible with a schedule when you are always having to drop and run for ailing grandfather or nursing-home mother in law, or whatever comes up. Lets face it. If you're capable of the work, being management in a restaurant can make you rich. My friend amber runs a taco bell and by herself pulls in about 90 grand (thanks to bonuses). Granted i'm not high enough rank to get rich but my goal is just to work until out of college anyway.

I went for an MRI scan the other day but my perspective remains unchanged.

Your unrelated scan didn't change your perspective on what?
my statement actually was relevant because it shows that the food i'm eating isn't having a detremental effect on me. I was only ever prevented from donating plasma once thanks to a high lipid level, and that was after a meal i ate at home.

Actually, if you followed your dietary schedule and didn't consume more than what you needed, eating mcdonalds every day is no worse for you than eating anything else. Fat is fat, sugar is sugar, salt is salt, it doesn't matter if it comes from a greasy fast food burger, a family sized bag of doritos, or the tacos you made yourself for dinner. The problem with people eating at fast food places is that there's no moderation, a lot of people have trouble ordering a small size (I know I do), and when it comes to getting your chicken fried or grilled we go for the fried stuff. There's lots of healthier choices on fast food menus that most people just don't take simply because they go to these places to get the food that's bad for them. Not only that but how many people eat until they are just stuffed, rather than eating only what they need? That was my biggest hurdle when I started trying to lose weight, simply overeating is enough to cause you to pack on pounds.

Exercise helps keep me healthy. I ran in a local 5 mile even a few weeks ago. I also know someone with a problem with moderation. My sister in law. We had a cook-out this saturday, with plenty of food and she had her boyfriend bring more hamburgers (she weighs 400+). She has complained she keeps getting bigger but then again not only is she overeating to the extreme (about 5000+ calores a day in my estimation) but she's teaching her daughter her bad habits. Overfilling her plate, forcing her to eat it all even when the kid says she's not hungry. It angers me.

That just a load of B*****ks, McDonald's meals are missing a whole bunch of other nutrients, Vitamins & minerals which help your body remain healthy, otherwise why don't Athletes eat McDonald's?

mainly because they do. Who started that stupid rumor anyway? Michael Phelps was quoted as saying that when he was in training, he ingested about 7000 calories a day. That's a lot of fruit and vegetables... :eyeroll: Also here's a video of a famous basketball player eating mcdonalds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dq2-98HliQ
Your body only really needs about 26 minerals in any appreciable amount, and makes some of them on its own. What makes you think a cow doesn't need the same nutrients you do? They are most likely in their meat then. Don't forget there are animals on this planet that only eat meat. How are they getting by?

Wrong, there are different types of Fat, for instance Trans-fats which your body cannot break down EVER it can never get rid of Trans-fats as it cant break them down a bit like Herpes they NEVER leave you. (and yes McDonalds still contain Trans-fats)

Just don't eat the beef. Beef naturally contains trans-fats, and the only mcdonalds menu items which have trans fats in them are the hamburgers
http://www.umm.edu/features/transfats.htm
http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutri...itionfacts.pdf

As for Salt, virtually all fast foods have absolutely tons of Salt in them, as adding Salt to something generally is seen to improve the flavour, and having the same amount of McDonald's as homes cooked food you would eat a ton more salt, which is just not good for you.

we don't salt anything except the fries and the hamburger meat (lightly) and you can order them without salt. Trans-fats are not used in mcdonalds anymore. The only menu items that had them are the mcskillet burritos and they have been phased out. Restaurants use a powdered salt which requires less salt for the same amount of taste, on the fries.

Anyone who even tries to suggest that eating McDonald's all the time is fine or good for you Basically works for McDonald's or is clueless about food.

There are the salad choices, apple slices, fruit and walnut salad (with yogurt), etc.
Don't get me wrong, there is stuff that will kill you there. There isn't a single item on the mcdonalds menu that is baked. Even the grilled chicken is grilled with four sprays of butter on it, but whether or not eating nothing but mcdonalds is irresponsible, the fact remains that my original statement about that movie is accurate. He's out to blame mcdonalds for his own behaviour for that month. There's a reason the lawsuits were dismissed. And don't forget this isn't too long after the old lady sued and won something like 6.5 million dollars for spilling coffee on herself. Somehow we are supposed to believe she didn't expect her coffee to be hot and sued because the cup wasn't labeled.

You want clueless about food? Explain to me why oil is now a food group. http://www.pocanticohills.org/nutrition/nutrition.html.

For WHAT?????

To ensure that you still have some? Are you participating in some kind of experiment?

i am sure i mentioned that i donate blood plasma. You can donate twice a week legally. I receive about $65 a week for less than 3 hours of my time per week.

[Lord Orwell]

I eat three of these a day.

that's little.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4632991n

[baja_yu]

i am sure i mentioned that i donate blood plasma. You can donate twice a week legally. I receive about $65 a week for less than 3 hours of my time per week.

So you're selling it then, not donating.

[moti barski]

I must say that is one of the sickest most horrifying things I have heard in this forum and in general,
can you say red lines ? whats next your eyes ?, I wonder what the doctor's friend or some rich guy's daughter is doing with your blood.

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The body and its fluids are clearly more valuable than I thought.

[Lord Orwell]

it takes approximately 40 donations to give one day of vaccination to a woman with crutchfield-jacob's disease, for example. The plasma (not the blood! i get the blood back) is used to create vaccines and syrums to treat a variety of issues, many of which involve unborn babies.

And i didn't call it a donation. The government does. I get compensated but it's tax free. I donate plasma and they donate money to me
But yeah, plasma is very valuable. I donate 880ml x2 for that compensation but they sell it for much more. I buy gas with my donation money.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I must say that is one of the sickest most horrifying things I have heard in this forum and in general,
can you say red lines ? whats next your eyes ?, I wonder what the doctor's friend or some rich guy's daughter is doing with your blood.

Weren't you the one who started the thread about plasma?

@His Highness The Lord of Orwell: If you had mentioned it, I had forgotten. I applaud your actions. I donate blood as often as is possible, but that's only once every couple months. Does donating plasma have any consequences that you notice? I've started commuting to work by bike, which is about 27 miles each way, so I'm not going to consider anything that makes me even more hungry.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I should add that McDonalds has taken to trying to improve the healthfulness of their food...within reason. One other point is that McDonalds currently has the highest quality control of any of the fast food chain places, so the quality of the ingredients is likely to be higher...and boy does a double cheesburger taste good after you've been in the woods hiking for a month.

Though, one thing they ought to do is take the New Mexico variation, which is to put green chile on the cheesburger, and spread it around to the rest of the country. Those tastes go GREAT together.

[NeedSomeAnswers]

the way you phrased that makes me think you look down on fast food workers.

Not at all, a job is a job I have nothing against anyone working at fast food places.

Your unrelated scan didn't change your perspective on what?
my statement actually was relevant because it shows that the food i'm eating isn't having a detremental effect on me. I was only ever prevented from donating plasma once thanks to a high lipid level, and that was after a meal i ate at home.

exactly, my unrelated scan didn't change my perspective, blood is only 1 element of a health check and because someone gets there blood checked does not make them healthy. Not that i am accusing you of being unhealthy i have no idea.

mainly because they do. Who started that stupid rumor anyway? Michael Phelps was quoted as saying that when he was in training, he ingested about 7000 calories a day.

Sorry probably badly worded, no athlete (apart from Michael Phelps who is a freak of nature) would choose to eat McDonald's as part of the training regime as the balance of protein, carbohydrates & fat e.t.c would be all wrong for high level exercise. Of course people eat what ever they like for pleasure, just the same as i am sure athletes eat cake and chocolate.

What makes you think a cow doesn't need the same nutrients you do? They are most likely in their meat then. Don't forget there are animals on this planet that only eat meat. How are they getting by?

The quality of meat in a McDonald's hamburger is not great, yes it is proper beef now days but its still not good quality, its not that i dont eat burgers i am happy to go down to my local butchers and buy some good quality burgers.

Just don't eat the beef. Beef naturally contains trans-fats, and the only mcdonalds menu items which have trans fats in them are the hamburgers

Beef does NOT naturally contain trans fats this is a fallacy. Trans Fats are generally created when fat is hydrogenated which tends to be a process that we humans do to our food. Its actually the cooking oil that part of the problem, they have changed the cooking oil to be more healthy but it still contains Trans Fats.

I Feel like one of them Health experts now :0), could you just Poo in this dish please and i will explain why the colour tells me that you are useless waste of space !! (disclaimer non UK based people might not get that joke)

Anyway i eat fast food occasionally but I am under no illusion that it is particularly good for me, if you eat the odd burger then whatever, I just dont get it when people claim that it is good for you or the same as proper home cooked food when it is not.

[abhijit]

Clearly you are my brother from another mother.

I have a keychain that reads:

Why exercise and punish my body








for something my mouth did?



I picked it up myself, for myself.

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A friend of mine went running and got hit by a car. This was in India.
He was lucky to be alive, was what the doctors told him.

Then there's another person who lifted too much and had a herniated disk. She's currently recuperating in an hospital.

So avoid the urge to exercise is my mantra.

[abhijit]

i am sure i mentioned that i donate blood plasma. You can donate twice a week legally. I receive about $65 a week for less than 3 hours of my time per week.

I never knew that you could get paid to donate blood plasma. I donate blood about once a year. I used to do it more frequently while in India, but the US has strict regulations about who's blood they want. If you have traveled to any of the countries on a certain list, you CANNOT donate blood in the United States.