Ubuntu 11.04

[kregg]

So wossname, have you tried it? What do you think of the interface?

If you aren't irked at the new interface, then dear god... what has happened to you?

(Anyone else's thoughts on new Ubuntu is great too)

[baja_yu]

Slackware 13.37 just got released. Now there's a good Linux distribution.

[kregg]

Last time I tried using Slackware Linux, I was curled up on the floor in the fetal position weeping to myself.

NEVAR AGAIN!

[baja_yu]

You're weak. Just kidding. But seriously, you are.

When was that? It's become a lot less rough and hard to set up then, lets say 7-10 years ago.

[kregg]

I think that was back in 2007, so that was 4 years ago. And yes, I am weak, although I am keen on trying ArchLinux after university.

[TheBigB]

I recently stumbled upon Pinguy OS.
Haven't tried to a full extent, but I already found it's preinstalled with a lot of awesome software that I would unlikely have found myself

Already tried Ubuntu 11.04, but my notebook doesn't seem to like the ATI driver.

[baja_yu]

As a more user friendly distro I like Fedora very much, and Slackware for the more hard core user. Tried Ubuntu somewhere around v7, but it didn't hold my attention.

[Lord_Rat]

I like my Windows 7 distro.

[moti barski]

ubunto :
1 is it free ?
2 install walkthrough
3 special features
4 vs windows 7, vb mac
5 can vb.net, asp.net work on it ?
6 does it work for amd, intel, laptop ?
7 avg system resources usage ?

[formlesstree4]

1) Yes
2) Works similar to Windows.
3) Big List there
4) Nope, there's Mono Project though that somewhat works
5) See #4
6) Yes
7) I dunno, check AVG out and see for yourself.

[moti barski]

7 average system resources usage ?
5 can vb.net, asp.net work on it ? yes / no

[formlesstree4]

7 average system resources usage ?
5 can vb.net, asp.net work on it ? yes / no

I just answered that for you:

5) It can, but there are drawbacks. I will physically link you to the site right here. This will enable you to run some .NET programs, mainly Framework 2.0 and maybe some Framework 3.0 applications, depending on what they do. I can't remember off hand.

7) Again, check AVG's website which I already linked you to. In fact, I'll link you right to their Documentation which should contain the system requirements somewhere inside.

If you keep repeating the same questions, I'm going to give you the exact same answer each time. Please put a little effort into it yourself.

[weirddemon]

Please put a little effort into it yourself.

Formless, you have to know by now that Moti is incapable of doing things on his own

Also, why do they keep changing the UI? Every other release, the UI changes. I wish they'd figure out what they wanted to do and just stick with it for a while.

[formlesstree4]

Formless, you have to know by now that Moti is incapable of doing things on his own

Also, why do they keep changing the UI? Every other release, the UI changes. I wish they'd figure out what they wanted to do and just stick with it for a while.

Aye...but I still can hope right?

As for the UI changes, I guess they like to keep their fan base guessing?

[arunb]

10.04 good.....11.04 no idea

[kregg]

7 average system resources usage ?
5 can vb.net, asp.net work on it ? yes / no

5. Linux != Windows. Different Operating Systems handle binary files differently.

If you want the actual Windows version Visual Studio on Linux, then fat chance, even with WINE. If you want an alternative, there has been mentioned that there is MonoDevelop which brings the .NET framework to Linux, albeit in a pretty poor fashion.

7. I just discovered AVG runs on Linux, so I don't know how much resources it takes, but sometimes these things does depend on other things running on the system.

Furthermore, Linux doesn't really need an antivirus since it isn't Windows (i.e. not the major target since it is a OS that the minority use), and hence doesn't run Windows binaries (unless you install WINE, but now you must explicitly turn on the execution flags on the files yourself, including any crap you download off the internet). And to be quite honest, Windows really doesn't need it either if you use common sense and/or paranoia.

Of course, Linux is not immune if the user is a fool, for example one can easily be forkbombed if they run an executable that continuously forks itself in an endless loop. Even one can be tarbombed if you download a malicious tar file. Personally, I've never ran into any virus/malicious issues on both Windows and Linux.

[moti barski]

i am not talking about the avg anti virus , i was refering to average as : (x1 + x2 + x3... + Xn) \ n
what is the cpu usage for ubunto 11.04 ?

[kregg]

It is in the Ubuntu Natty Narwhal release notes on Ubuntu wiki.

[wossname]

Oh yeah I forgot it had been more than 17 seconds since the last major release of ubuntu. They'll have to resort to Greek names soon.

I went to upgrade to it on my netbook last night but then it said that I needed to install 700mb of stuff so I said no. Probably will get it done some time this weekend.

[kregg]

EDIT: Fix'd

[Lord_Rat]

I lol'd

[weirddemon]

I lol'd

I love Kregg's troll comics. They're hilarious.

[moti barski]

great comic kregg sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet !

[baja_yu]

I'm installing the 64bit version now in VirtualBox to check it out. The Unity gui got me interested.

[TheBigB]

I'm installing the 64bit version now in VirtualBox to check it out. The Unity gui got me interested.

You've been using a Mac for too long, son.

[baja_yu]

I like to try new things. But you are probably right. It's been about 7 months since I last used my PC. Though I do use Windows through VirtualBox on my iMac.

[baja_yu]

I don't know if it's because of the VM or what, but it doesn't seem very refined. It's choppy, slow and buggy.

[kregg]

I don't know if it's because of the VM or what, but it doesn't seem very refined. It's choppy, slow and buggy.

Probably both. The Unity package installed relies *heavily* on compositing effects. Try installing unity-2d instead, although I can't guarantee the same kind of effect.

It's really better (IMHO) if you have a laptop with a wide screen. I have such a laptop and Unity is a godsend, since it gives me more vertical room by condensing the title, toolbar, and the window control buttons at the top.

With that said, the Dash is a bag of hairy bums. The file/folder searcher is pants and trying to browse applications on Dash is an appliance in exorcism to Ubuntu. As a replacement, I recommend installing Gnome-Do or Synapse (I prefer Synapse since it works all the time for me unlike Gnome-Do and actually appears so much more nicer IMHO).
Also, as many other people have mentioned, Unity is nowhere near as customisable as Gnome2 + Compiz. This is true, but for a first major release of Ubuntu software, I'm not entirely surprised such thing is missing.

My 2 cents: If you have a laptop with a humongous screen and are a fan of Ubuntu, give Unity a try. Otherwise, for everyone else, Ubuntu Classic is just fine (normal Ubuntu), and can be selected when logging in.

[baja_yu]

I was running it on a 27" iMac (2560x1440 resolution). I ran the classic at first (had to install VirtualBox Guest Additions later to get Unity to work), in that mode it's pretty straightforward. I probably needed to give Unity more time to get used to it, but I don't have it right now.

[wossname]

Awesome, now James Brown runs Ubuntu!