Quote Originally Posted by kevininstructor View Post
And I was talking humans in regards to the Kubaton. If I am in bear country rest assured there is a huge firearm with me
When I'm in bear country, there's nothing with me but my mind. For the lower 48, carry guns when hiking for use against the most dangerous animal out there: Other humans. If you are carrying one for any other reason you haven't properly evaluated the situation. After all, bears aren't the second most dangerous animal out there. That would be moose. Against either moose or bear you'd be lucky to be able to draw fast enough to even get a shot off.

Besides, if you are going to carry that much additional weight, you might as well allocate it for greater threats. So far, I have been hit by two falling rocks, narrowly missed by one falling tree, narrowly missed by lightning (at the bottom of a deep, narrow, valley, no less) and the greatest threat would be hypothermia. If you want to carry those extra pounds, put them into clothing.