Which is compiler is not stupid?

[abdul]

I have vc++ but I don't want to use MFC to create apps. I want to use my own code. When I make a resource file with MFC, it puts a lots of code in that file which is beyond my scope. Guys, is there any other compiler which is better than vc++? How can know that when the cursor moves over my mouse and when it enters and leavers. Ms uses some kind of class like this

button::OnMouseClicked

How can use that with my pure code? Is there any complete tutorial on C++ windows programing not www.winprog.org becuase some of its files don't work.

How can I create a toolbar can you give an example file for that?

Thanks

[ChimpFace9000]

Winprog is by far the best tutorial for begginers, so if you cant figure that one out, your probably not ready.

[Vlatko]

In my opinion VC++ is far the best IDE and Compiler. Don't use MFC. As ChimpFace said winprog is one of the best tutorials.

[Megatron]

Select "Win32 Application" instead of "MFC AppWizard"

[sail3005]

Yeah, you don't have to MFC in VC++. But, if you are insistant on not using VC++, then i recommend Borland C++ builder 5.

[parksie]

No, just Borland C++ 5. NOT C++ Builder -- that's different. Like VB but using C++.

[sail3005]

Yeah, it can do that, but it is also a nice IDE for just doing plain c++/api.

[wey97]

On your original question:
For programming w/o MFC, I would suggest going to

http://www.planetsourcecode.com/xq/A...vb/default.htm

and browsing through the code or searching for code without
MFC. There are basic programs to help with WINAPI.

[parksie]

How old is this thread? Surely it must have had a birthday by now

We've covered the whole "making *real* windows programs" in minute detail, and it's covered in the FAQ, as well as in god knows how many threads