FireFox 4 beta, try it did you?

[baja_yu]

Looks like Chrome and Safari had a baby. Didn't use it much though. I'm sticking with Chrome.

[abhijit]

Looks like Chrome and Safari had a baby. Didn't use it much though. I'm sticking with Chrome.

Will check it out next week.

For now, I am sticking with IE 8 and Chrome.

[techgnome]

Yeah, I tried it... nothing new or earth shattering. For now I'm sticking with Opera.

-tg

[kregg]

I tried it eons ago, and it was far too slow on my PC. Went back to 3.6.8 after a while. Although tab candy is a nice idea.

[chris128]

Yeah, I tried it... nothing new or earth shattering. For now I'm sticking with Opera.

-tg

+ 1

[akhileshbc]

Yeah, I tried it... nothing new or earth shattering. For now I'm sticking with Opera.

-tg

Me too... +1

[penagate]

The "earth shattering" stuff (if you could call it that) is all under the hood, such as HTML5 and CSS3 features, local storage, and improved JavaScript performance. The UI just follows the same natural evolution of all browsers; there hasn't been any real innovation in browser interfaces for over a decade.

[JuggaloBrotha]

The "earth shattering" stuff (if you could call it that) is all under the hood, such as HTML5 and CSS3 features, local storage, and improved JavaScript performance. The UI just follows the same natural evolution of all browsers; there hasn't been any real innovation in browser interfaces for over a decade.

But the invention of tabbed browsing rocked my world some 7 years ago. Before that I was lost and confused, now I'm confident and organized

[FireXtol]

But the invention of tabbed browsing rocked my world some 7 years ago. Before that I was lost and confused, now I'm confident and organized

I didn't realize you're a Safari user.

[I_Love_My_Vans]

Screw the FF4 beta, I'm really keen to give IE9 a go, it should be a good step forward to be supporting some of the standards it's claimed to support, but of course no love for XP, so we still might have a few % of IE6 users for a while.

As for FF4 beta, it does look like the offspring or Chrome and Safari. It looks like FF will soon include ECMAScript 5, which will allow us use strict Javascript!

[chris128]

I still think Opera is by far the best browser out there... in pretty much every aspect. I'd highly recommend trying it out if you have never given it a go. Mouse Gestures alone make me prefer it over any other browser but then the speed, customisability, spell checker, speed dial, visual tabs, opera turbo, and tons of other features just mean it blows the other browsers out of the water. Oh and its the only browser to get 100/100 on the ACID 3 HTML standards test The only problem I have with it is that you find the odd website that doesn't quite display correctly or has some functionality not working that does work in IE... but I think most of that is an unfortunate side effect of IE not following HTML standards for so long that people started building websites based on IEs standards rather than the real standards

[baja_yu]

I like Chrome as it's light and fast, works well, has addin support (there's several for mouse gestures too). Chrome gets 100/100 on Acid3 too.

[I_Love_My_Vans]

Oh and its the only browser to get 100/100 on the ACID 3 HTML standards test

Er, what?

This is what Chrome on Linux gets...



Look like 100/100 to me, and I'm sure it's not the only one?

[JuggaloBrotha]

So what exactly is this "Acid3" test? Obviously I'm just a web user, not so much a web developer.

The one thing I'm looking forward to that'll be in FF4 is the An Introduction to Firefox's Tab Candy on Vimeo. I kind of wish it was in FF 3.6 right now, the other browser I would consider using is Chrome, but the last time I used it (a year or more ago) it felt... off, things seemed out of place in the UI, though FF 4 is heading that way so I'll get used to it soon enough.

[I_Love_My_Vans]

It's a web standards test, although there are some criticism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3

[chris128]

Ah well then they must have updated it recently as I tried it not that long ago (probably a few months) and it certainly didn't then. My bad

[I_Love_My_Vans]

Hey Chris, we both replied at the same time... fancy a game of Golf this afternoon?

[chris128]

I'm washing my hair this afternoon, sorry

[tr333]

Currently running Chrome 7.0.503.0 through the dev channel, but I still think the latest Opera is even faster (and without the bugs!).

[kregg]

Currently running Chrome 7.0.503.0 through the dev channel, but I still think the latest Opera is even faster (and without the bugs!).

Yes, that's what happens when you get Chrome through the dev channels. If you want the latest stuff, you're better off sticking to the beta channel. The dev channel is incredibly bleeding edge, but it's broken half of the time and a lot of the features aren't guaranteed to be in the final release.

I like Opera, but the browser rendering is terrible. Half of the websites I go on always look broken up. It's as if the Opera team only visit the Opera homepage (which, to be quite honest, would not surprise me)

[FireXtol]

Yes, that's what happens when you get Chrome through the dev channels. If you want the latest stuff, you're better off sticking to the beta channel. The dev channel is incredibly bleeding edge, but it's broken half of the time and a lot of the features aren't guaranteed to be in the final release.

I like Opera, but the browser rendering is terrible. Half of the websites I go on always look broken up. It's as if the Opera team only visit the Opera homepage (which, to be quite honest, would not surprise me)

Are "half of the websites" using valid markup?

[chris128]

I like Opera, but the browser rendering is terrible. Half of the websites I go on always look broken up. It's as if the Opera team only visit the Opera homepage (which, to be quite honest, would not surprise me)

More like about 5% of the websites don't display properly... Pretty much every website I go on works fine, there's just the odd site that is written to work in a browser that does not follow standards (*cough* IE *cough*) that doesn't work so well.

[tr333]

I like Opera, but the browser rendering is terrible. Half of the websites I go on always look broken up. It's as if the Opera team only visit the Opera homepage (which, to be quite honest, would not surprise me)

It appears that there are some people would like Opera to appear broken:

http://people.opera.com/howcome/2003/2/msn/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/msn/
http://www.opera.com/press/releases/2003/02/14/ (borkborkbork!)


The only time I've had a problem with opera (once) was when the site was hardcoded to detect IE/Netscape/Mozilla, but not Opera or Safari.

[hussey]

I just installed Firefox 2.0 and I absolutely love it! I was using IE7 and it was forever "not responding" with every website and link I would enter. Microsoft is going to have to come up with something short of spectacular for me to ever go back. I will definitely install the 3.0V and any and all future versions

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[chris128]

I just installed Firefox 2.0 and I absolutely love it! I was using IE7 and it was forever "not responding" with every website and link I would enter. Microsoft is going to have to come up with something short of spectacular for me to ever go back. I will definitely install the 3.0V and any and all future versions

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To be honest that's just IE being rubbish, not Firefox being good pretty much every other browser in the world is better than IE if you ask me.

[kregg]

Are "half of the websites" using valid markup?

I honestly couldn't say, I don't bother checking for valid markup or whatever, I just want the web pages to work.

It appears that there are some people would like Opera to appear broken:

http://people.opera.com/howcome/2003/2/msn/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/msn/
http://www.opera.com/press/releases/2003/02/14/ (borkborkbork!)


The only time I've had a problem with opera (once) was when the site was hardcoded to detect IE/Netscape/Mozilla, but not Opera or Safari.

That's interesting, I've now changed my User String to be Firefox and none of my websites seem broken. But then again, I've only visited about 4 websites. I'll give Opera another spin and see if it resorts back to bad rendering, but for the meantime, thanks for that insight, it's probably helped me view websites on Opera properly!

[techgnome]

The only time I have issues with Opera and websites is when it checks for IE, Firefox and then assumes anything else is a "mobile" and I get the .mobi website... so far that has only happened on two sites I frequent.

-tg

[chris128]

Yeah I still find the odd site that gives me an error stating that IE, Firefox and Safari are the only supported browsers but very few and far between.

[techgnome]

my 401k site is the first one that I came across that did that... fine... not a big deal... the other one was MapQuest... Whaaaaaaat?

-tg