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    MSDN Gone all softy...

    What gives? I hit up MSDN this morning to look up something, and I'm greeted with this carp!

    What the heck? When did this happen? Why did this happen? I'm rather disappointed. This would seem to indicate that developers do Desktop OR Web Or Cloud OR Phone development... some of us do a mix. Where are the featured articles? The featured blogs?

    I don't like it.

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    Re: MSDN Gone all softy...

    Pffft! so what if it matches Win7... next thing you know they'll be putting that stupid ribbon into Visual Studio and heralding it as the next best thing. Ugh.

    Personally I'd rather have blackened catfish, or some nicely smoked salmon.

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    edit - also my beef isn't so much as the look as much as it has to do with the lack of information ... I liked the layout and format that matched VS2010... it should be aimed at the technical people it's targeting... based on the tools... not the warm fuzzies of an OS that's geared towards the typical user.
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    Re: MSDN Gone all softy...

    No, I think it has more to do with their death-wish for the mobile segment of the market "Phone 7" (talk about your carp).

    I also noticed the cookie on this machine was set for UK English and I got a more normal looking home page. After some fiddling with the jumpy "menu" (there are no menus in a web page, so every one represents some fool's "spiffy menu hack") I got switched back to US English and now I see your PlaySkool MSDN home page.


    Apparently there are no such things as embedded or server development anymore either... or they ran out of pastel colors.

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    Re: MSDN Gone all softy...

    At least the MSDN documentation pages haven't changed (yet)...

    When I did click on the "Desktop" playskool block, I was greeted with a page that is clearly geared towards programming 101.... "What is client desktop development?"

    *sigh*

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    Re: MSDN Gone all softy...

    MS seems to have forget about the concepts of Usability on visual design. Besides all that, blocks, boxes, etc sux big time.
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    Re: MSDN Gone all softy...

    Quote Originally Posted by techgnome View Post
    next thing you know they'll be putting that stupid ribbon into Visual Studio and heralding it as the next best thing. Ugh.
    VS2010 keynote, they demonstrated making a picture viewer look more modern and working better by replacing toolbars with ribbons. Even went so far to say that tool bars look old and called them 'legacy', yet none of them seem to have noticed that the very product they were presenting was using those legacy toolbars. Funny stuff. I'd loved to have been there and tell them that (yelling from the audience of course).

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    Re: MSDN Gone all softy...

    That's just the mentality spilling over from the Office Team.

    Look how awful most of their ideas in Office have been over the years: Clippy, Help from Hell, and the worst multi-item clipboard implementation I've ever seen. The Ribbon is just the latest fiasco.

    I'm not saying all of their ideas have been bad, but they sure have come up with some awful stuff.

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    Re: MSDN Gone all softy...

    Quote Originally Posted by TDQWERTY View Post
    ... Besides all that, blocks, boxes, etc sux big time.
    Blocks? I thought those were iPads!

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    Re: MSDN Gone all softy...

    haha, still didn't see one but if they are as big as they seem i would call them blocks for sure
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