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    Re: Fear / Loathing / Reality

    Quote Originally Posted by NeedSomeAnswers View Post
    Right it is true that the earth does undergo periods of warming and cooling over vast periods of time. From what i have heard from Scientists though they say that the current rate of warming even if slow is just not in the same range as the earth natural warming and cooling cycles.

    The Earth natural cycles happen over vast periods of time, the kind of warming we are seeing currently is happening much faster, even if it is still slow.

    What i would like to know though is why do you believe that so many scientists (and there really is a large number from a large number of different countries) are misinforming everyone ? or do you just think they are all wrong ?

    Also i take it you understand the main premise of man made global warming argument -

    - that we can prove in test after test that air with a high C02 content heats up more when in it comes in contact with light, then air with a lower C02 content in fact significantly more,

    - and secondly we can measure the levels of C02 in the atmosphere and show that they are increasing, and not only increasing but increasing at a rate that cant be explained by natural causes

    - and finally it is a fact that we are burning more stuff then ever before which releases C02 into the atmosphere.

    Do you believe any of these 3 statement to be false or dubious ?
    I agree with all three statements. So what? Do you disagree with the graph?

    Ask the scientists what the conditions on the planet were at all of the highs and lows on the graph. I think the answer is that water levels rose and we had ice ages. In other words, if "we" had zero environmental impact on the planet would we still have global flooding and ice ages?

    If the answer is affirmative then we, IMHO, are not addressing the real problem, like where is the coastal population going to live, and how are they going to make the transition. Hell, I may have beachfront property since I am only 529' ASL.

    A scientist not "knowing" the answer is akin to a politician being at fault for anything.

    If your point of view is that scientist "know" the future then you have anointed them gods, and I don't agree with that. Do they have an informed opinion, sure they do.
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