Html 5

[abhijit]

I am kinda impressed. A new technology, which isn't really that new.
Go through the slide show for more.

http://apirocks.com/html5/html5.html

[techgnome]

I haven't heard anything compelling about HTML 5 yet that makes me want to jump on it... Except that iSteve iJobs keeps pushing it... for now I'll simply add it to the ever increasing stack of web technologies that I'm ignoring.

-tg

[Hack]

Here is an article you might find interesting...

http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/44776?trk=DXRSS_

[abhijit]

I haven't heard anything compelling about HTML 5 yet that makes me want to jump on it... Except that iSteve iJobs keeps pushing it... for now I'll simply add it to the ever increasing stack of web technologies that I'm ignoring.

-tg

This is over a year old.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10305822-92.html

[abhijit]

This is more recent.
http://www.electronista.com/articles...adds.hardware/

[techgnome]

Still haven't seen anything compelling about HTML5 ... and that last one is about IE9... not so much HTML5...

-tg

[DeanMc]

Isn't Jobs pushing it because he doesn't want to have to play into adobe or ms's pocket in terms of rich interwebs

[abhijit]

Isn't Jobs pushing it because he doesn't want to have to play into adobe or ms's pocket in terms of rich interwebs

That's the consensus of the general population, but Google and Microsoft seem to have got on the bandwagon.

[techgnome]

What bandwagon? the HTML5 bandwagon? I don't think anyone doubts that... everyone seems to be on board with it... except me. I still don't see what the hoopla is all about. As I mentioned, so far the biggest drum beater has been Jobs... and that's mostly in defense of his decision to continue to shun Flash on iPhone/Touch/Pad products... saying that anythign Flash can do, HTML5 will be able to do better and more efficiently. In short, HTML5 is supposed to be a Flash-killer... we've heard this before.

-tg

[HanneSThEGreaT]

Don't worry TG, I also still won't jump onto the HTML 5 Bandwagon. I have read a lot of news about it, and did lots of research, and I can say is :
So what?

MS also makes such a big fuss about their Windows Phone 7, and I'm still not impressed.

They're just using a good advertising strategy to get as musch ( good or bad ) said about their latest stuff, that is all...

[tr333]

I can say that I've been using HTML5 for quite a while now. Stuff like <canvas> and new form elements are quite nice when doing development on any decent web browser (Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera).

If you haven't noticed, Google uses HTML5 for its main search page at http://www.google.com/ (even for IE users), and it's using the HTML5 <video> tag on youtube for compatible browsers instead of flash video.

For the HTML5 Test the latest Chrome beta scores 142/160, while IE8 only gets 19/160
Just because Microsoft is slow, doesn't mean the rest of the world has to wait for them to catch up.

[chris128]

If you haven't noticed, Google uses HTML5 for its main search page at http://www.google.com/ (even for IE users), and it's using the HTML5 <video> tag on youtube for compatible browsers instead of flash video.

Ohh I wondered why google seemed to look different depending on which browser I was using since a few weeks ago

For the HTML5 Test the latest Chrome beta scores 142/160, while IE8 only gets 19/160
Just because Microsoft is slow, doesn't mean the rest of the world has to wait for them to catch up.

Just tried that test on the latest version of Opera and it got 102/160 ... not too shabby I guess. I think Opera is still the only browser to get 100/100 on the Acid3 test though Of course IE fails miserably at that as well.

[dilettante]

I don't see the big deal here either. Actually it looks more like more ways for advertising to be shoved into your face.

If IE supports fewer and fewer doodads over time it might become a compelling reason to use it.

[tr333]

I don't see the big deal here either. Actually it looks more like more ways for advertising to be shoved into your face.

If IE supports fewer and fewer doodads over time it might become a compelling reason to use it.

In what way would you get more advertising? If anything, having ads implemented in HTML/js/css/canvas would make it easier to disable them (using DOM stuff) than trying to kill off flash objects on a page.

[dilettante]

I'm less concerned with blocking ads than keeping advertising reasonable. To me that means no pop-ups, no floaties, no animation, sound, or video. Most of what seems "new" in HTML5 is about those very offensive advertising tactics... or maybe HTML games, something I don't need either.

[NeedSomeAnswers]

It seems to me if you are already a web / website designer then you will welcome the changes in HTML5 and probably find many of them useful in expanding the functionality of your design. However if you come from a Desktop programming background then you will probably be underwhelmed.

As far as it being a Flash killer, give me a break. Adobe Flex & MS Silverlight which are the 2 main rich web technologies out there enable you to do far more than HTML5.

HTML5 even in conjunction with Ajax wont give you as much functionality as Silverlight or Flex !

[tr333]

It seems to me if you are already a web / website designer then you will welcome the changes in HTML5 and probably find many of them useful in expanding the functionality of your design. However if you come from a Desktop programming background then you will probably be underwhelmed.

As far as it being a Flash killer, give me a break. Adobe Flex & MS Silverlight which are the 2 main rich web technologies out there enable you to do far more than HTML5.

HTML5 even in conjunction with Ajax wont give you as much functionality as Silverlight or Flex !

I've yet to see any major websites using Silverlight outside of Microsoft. Of the major websites that use flash, almost all are using it for flash-video which is being pushed out in some high-profile places in favour of HTML5 <video> (even IE9 is going to support this).

As a web developer, I know that Flash and Silverlight content cannot be indexed by search engines and have almost no chance of following WCAG.

As a web user, I know that Flash is horribly CPU-intensive on non-windows platforms (Flash on windows isn't much better), is not available on all platforms, and is a source of bugs that would otherwise not exist in the browser. I've never had any need to install Silverlight on Windows (or ability to install on Linux).

</flash-rant>

[NeedSomeAnswers]

I've yet to see any major websites using Silverlight outside of Microsoft. Of the major websites that use flash, almost all are using it for flash-video which is being pushed out in some high-profile places in favour of HTML5 <video> (even IE9 is going to support this).

Yes but web applications are very different from web sites. And i have seen both Flex & Silverlight web applications designed to work on intranets and extranets.

[baja_yu]

I think Opera is still the only browser to get 100/100 on the Acid3 test though

Google Chrome Beta 5.0.375.38 (latest at this point) I'm using also gets 100/100 on Acid3.

EDIT: Just read the disclaimer below saying browser must use default settings, I'm not sure if I changed anything to make it get 100/100 or not.