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    thread start date

    would it be possible / advantageous to show thread start date next to thread starter name

    this would allow members to see that an old thread has been resurrected an choose whether to read or not
    i do my best to test code works before i post it, but sometimes am unable to do so for some reason, and usually say so if this is the case.
    Note code snippets posted are just that and do not include error handling that is required in real world applications, but avoid On Error Resume Next

    dim all variables as required as often i have done so elsewhere in my code but only posted the relevant part

    come back and mark your original post as resolved if your problem is fixed
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    Re: thread start date

    did you get crypt-rolled (sucked into a thread more than a year old)?

    I've had that happen to me. Sometimes the resurrection is valid... but more often than not, it isn't.

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    Re: thread start date

    Changing the templates is usually not as problematic as changing the code but it may require an extra query, I could look deeper into it if needed, but then we still run into the same problem of complicated upgrades to redo the hack.

    Perhaps a easier solution would be to close out threads after a certain time period has elapsed (policy period). If there is any additional need to reference the thread, a new thread with a reference link made back to the closed thread would be best.
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    Re: thread start date

    Quote Originally Posted by RobDog888 View Post
    Changing the templates is usually not as problematic as changing the code but it may require an extra query, I could look deeper into it if needed, but then we still run into the same problem of complicated upgrades to redo the hack.

    Perhaps a easier solution would be to close out threads after a certain time period has elapsed (policy period). If there is any additional need to reference the thread, a new thread with a reference link made back to the closed thread would be best.
    I support that idea. If a thread hasn't had a post in 45 days (or however long), close it.
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    Re: thread start date

    I was looking at a plugin for this but to modify it to work for our needs will be too much of a resource drain because of the need to update threads that are past the time limit.

    I did figure I could write a cron job to process threads on a nightly batch but still may not be low impact enough.

    Finally the thrid option, which may not be a good user experience, is to autoclose the thread when they try to reply lol.
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    Re: thread start date

    Quote Originally Posted by RobDog888 View Post

    Finally the thrid option, which may not be a good user experience, is to autoclose the thread when they try to reply lol.
    Pity, it can't be done for threads that have been resolved.
    when you quote a post could you please do it via the "Reply With Quote" button or if it multiple post click the "''+" button then "Reply With Quote" button.
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    Re: thread start date

    It probably could but usually resolved threads may have additional info to add or stuff. The member wouldnt be able to reopen it. I think we thought about it when the hack was first discussed and decided against closing them.

    I did think about just placing a message next to the reply box that could warn the member that the thread is old and would be closed. Then f they try to post a reply we use the postback to update the thread table with a update statement to close the thread. This way its on a per thread per post attempt basis. Least impact I can think of.

    Still every modification need to really be eval'd to see if its worth the trouble managing.

    Perhaps just the warning would be easiest as its a simple plugin adding a custom template to the replybox template dynamically. Up to the Admins if its worthy or not. Then if the members have enough desire for it maybe we can do it.
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    Re: thread start date

    So you cant just have the DB run an update query on the Threads table when the date rolls to the next day? What type of database does this forum use? I'm pretty sure MySql supports DB Triggers for this type of thing and it wouldn't require a PHP forum change if done right. At least I don't think anyone would need to get into the forum code at all.
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    Re: thread start date

    We've discussed the idea of closing older threads automatically and decided against it. Don't see any reason why a thread should be closed just because it's old. That doesn't necessarily mean it's no longer relevant.

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    Re: thread start date

    Hey,

    What about entries in the CodeBank's? Would/should they also get included in this auto-closure discussion? I would have thought not, that way, any new person with a question can legitimately ask it in an older thread.

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    Re: thread start date

    How about just the warning part on old threads to help members realize its old and probably shoudnt be bumped?
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    Re: thread start date

    Hey,

    What sort of warning are we talking about? It would have to be something pretty obvious to prevent it from being bumped.

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    Re: thread start date

    Just thinking of using a plugin to inject an additional template to the quick reply and advanced reply to add text stating its an old thread etc.

    But guess maybe we could take this to the php forum perhaps as its getting kinda off topic

    Edit: Look what I found. Like this!
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    Re: thread start date

    Quote Originally Posted by RobDog888 View Post
    Just thinking of using a plugin to inject an additional template to the quick reply and advanced reply to add text stating its an old thread etc.

    But guess maybe we could take this to the php forum perhaps as its getting kinda off topic

    Edit: Look what I found. Like this!
    That looks good, though 15 days is a little short I think 45 days or more (like 60) would be alright. Some people like myself don't get back to a thread I make for a few weeks
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    Re: thread start date

    Hey,

    That looks promising!! But I agree with JuggaloBrotha, perhaps 15 days is a bit short.

    Gary

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    Re: thread start date

    Its just an example but at least spammers cant bump threads unless they check the box. Should break most webbots at least for a little while.

    3 plugins, a couple of phrases and template.
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    Re: thread start date

    It needs to be evaluated and approved by the developer admins and then if approved we may have a timeframe to estimate.
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    Re: thread start date

    That's brilliant, Rob! I think we should install it. It's no code modifications is it?

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    Re: thread start date

    That plug-in seems like a great addition to the forum.
    when you quote a post could you please do it via the "Reply With Quote" button or if it multiple post click the "''+" button then "Reply With Quote" button.
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    Re: thread start date

    1) I like the idea of autoclosing the thread after a specific period of time. This is what happens in most of the forums.

    2) It would be a bad idea to autoclose Resolved threads, unless they have been inactive for a specific time. What if the user wants to 'UnResolve' it?

    3) The first point if not difficult to implement will directly help users not getting 'sucked' into old threads as tg puts it (Well, even I have been a part of one or two)
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    Re: thread start date

    Quote Originally Posted by penagate View Post
    That's brilliant, Rob! I think we should install it. It's no code modifications is it?
    Thanks PG. There is no code modifications at all. Complete plug-in and injecting the templates into the template cache. So its all done on the fly. this will need to be evaluated, tested and if accepted, scheduled for implementation. Any additional plugin is always a risk and needs to be thouroughly tested.

    @Sid, Autoclosing threads is just too much of a resource and risk. We have toyed around with this idea before and decided against it.
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