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    [RESOLVED] - Access 2003 indexing problem

    we got Access that link to another access and use query...the problem is the
    it got an error that said "exceed more than 2GB temp, ...."

    the query takes so long and it takes more than 2GB temp file when we checked..after several tuning, we know the problem because of indexing in one of the line table that the query takes..after we remove the index..it runs smoothly..

    but, 1 day after..the query stump again and we saw that the index is created again even though we already delete it the day before

    why it happened? any insight?

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    Last edited by erickwidya; Oct 29th, 2009 at 09:21 PM.

    1st NF - a table should not contain repeating groups.
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    Re: Access 2003 indexing problem

    Migrate to a database more suited to your usage. Based on your 2GB volume, you are probably trying to use Access as a backend for a DSS/reporting system (data mart like app)... this is technically not appropriate.

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    Re: Access 2003 indexing problem

    Migrate to a database more suited to your usage. -> any other insight if user doesn't want to migrate?

    the Access is used for front end as well as backend, they have their application inside it (reporting, form, query, etc)

    1st NF - a table should not contain repeating groups.
    2nd NF - any fields that do not depend fully on the primary key should be moved to another table.
    3rd NF - there should be no dependency between non key fields in same table.
    - E. Petroutsos -


    eRiCk

    A collection of "Laku-abis" Ebook, Permanent Residence

    Access Reserved Words, a Classic Form Bug, Access Limitation, Know run Process and the Lock they hold in, Logging User Activity in MSSQL,
    Kill Database Processes

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    Re: Access 2003 indexing problem

    Quote Originally Posted by erickwidya View Post
    Migrate to a database more suited to your usage. -> any other insight if user doesn't want to migrate?

    the Access is used for front end as well as backend, they have their application inside it (reporting, form, query, etc)
    Perhaps its time to quote on a new development package. Ive noticed with most my clients. When they originall started an idea they used acces for ease. and at the begining it was fast. But over time itś slows way down.

    So now they will have to consider an upgrade It will overall be a big improvment. but will come at a big expence.

    Access is just not desighned to handle files of that size

    Agrred that all of the above is my opinion. And sorry but i dont think the post was very helpfull either. But rather get them to change now as the problems will just keep getting worse as time progresses

    Regards

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    Re: Access 2003 indexing problem

    ok, i think the only solution is to upgrade, nothing else...

    thanks leinad31 and ShapeShiftme

    1st NF - a table should not contain repeating groups.
    2nd NF - any fields that do not depend fully on the primary key should be moved to another table.
    3rd NF - there should be no dependency between non key fields in same table.
    - E. Petroutsos -


    eRiCk

    A collection of "Laku-abis" Ebook, Permanent Residence

    Access Reserved Words, a Classic Form Bug, Access Limitation, Know run Process and the Lock they hold in, Logging User Activity in MSSQL,
    Kill Database Processes

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    Re: [RESOLVED] - Access 2003 indexing problem

    You can easily download trial versions of Oracle Express or SQL Server Express, then rebuild tables and finally import data from Access... only change in application would (or rather should) only be the connection string... that way you can do proof of concept in order to ease client concern.

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    Re: [RESOLVED] - Access 2003 indexing problem

    it's not that easy leinad

    the form, reports, etc is inside the Access itself..

    1st NF - a table should not contain repeating groups.
    2nd NF - any fields that do not depend fully on the primary key should be moved to another table.
    3rd NF - there should be no dependency between non key fields in same table.
    - E. Petroutsos -


    eRiCk

    A collection of "Laku-abis" Ebook, Permanent Residence

    Access Reserved Words, a Classic Form Bug, Access Limitation, Know run Process and the Lock they hold in, Logging User Activity in MSSQL,
    Kill Database Processes

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    Re: [RESOLVED] - Access 2003 indexing problem

    Move data warehousing like reports/forms out of access into a database designed for such (ETL), maintain OLTP transactions for the time being. That way you can phase the migration.

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    Re: [RESOLVED] - Access 2003 indexing problem

    thanks for the input leinad

    1st NF - a table should not contain repeating groups.
    2nd NF - any fields that do not depend fully on the primary key should be moved to another table.
    3rd NF - there should be no dependency between non key fields in same table.
    - E. Petroutsos -


    eRiCk

    A collection of "Laku-abis" Ebook, Permanent Residence

    Access Reserved Words, a Classic Form Bug, Access Limitation, Know run Process and the Lock they hold in, Logging User Activity in MSSQL,
    Kill Database Processes

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