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Aug 20th, 2009, 08:50 PM
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Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
[Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
LONG, But True
So my best friends Mom, Julie, within the last 3 years got out of a divorce. She had gotten a Facebook and a MyYearBook page and was looking for a "soul mate" or something. She talked to a few guys, and didnt see anything in them. Then this one guy gave Julie extra attention. We will call him Tom.
Tom would send Julie cute things on the website, and they got to talk online, then phone, then video calls, etc. They started "edating" or what ever you want to call it. They were edating for several months when they decided that he should move out here and live with Julie and her family (Julie and 3 teen girls).
A little more about Tom, he liked just about everything that Julie liked. The Raiders, Halloween, Scary movies, same ice cream "cute" things like that. So they were going to get married this coming halloween, it was set, no real plans set in stone.
He worked from home, so his he could easily relocate his business else where, so it was not a huge problem to move from the East coast all the way to the West coast, california, and marry Julie.
I was talking to my best friend about it and i was telling her like since my dad is a cop, he knows people who will move across the country and take advantage of people like that. And she was denying it, and i was like no really, people do that. But Tom was different, he was a nice guy. And i kept telling her, he could be faking the whole thing, and trying to get their money or something.
Well he moved out here in July, and has been living here since, and he has No family, they are all "dead", and he had no friends... Weird... So he Has been living here, and things have been ok except for the fact that he contributed no money to the family. He worked online, and kept all his money to himself.
Well since he moved out here, he didnt bring his car, so Julie let Tom use her car, and last week she was putting him on the insurance. Julie gave the insurance company Toms Social Security number... The insurance company came back with "That social security number is not valid anymore."
It turns out that that SSN belonged to a guy who was dead. So julie called the police and they told her "dont confront him about it." they did some investigating and called Julie back and told her to get everyone out of the house today, so my friend came to my house (she lives across the street) and the other 2 daughters took the dogs out for a walk.
Me and my friend were sitting in my room when we see a undercover police car pull up and then cops are swarming the house. We are watching from my window and we see Tom coming out of the house at gun point, and they put him into custody.
After talking with the detectives it turns out he was wanted in 11 states, he had warrants in all of them. "Tom" was just a made up person that he took on, for who knows how long...
I feel soo bad for that family. They thought they had found the perfect man... I havnt, and probably wont, say it, but i told them so... 
Update
So the police are going through his computer and are waiting for the FBI to get to the house.
Update
So i guess this guy has been going from single woman to single woman pretending to be a good guy, gaining their trust, and when they arnt home, he leaves them with all of their valuables.
When the police talked to him, he said that he was actually starting to get attached this family, and care about them, so he was going to leave them, but not hurt them and take their stuff because he cared about them, and they didnt deserve to be deceived.
Update
Something else that i found out: Since the guy moved in, Julie had problems sleeping, so she took an at home sleep apnea test, it came back positive for sleep apnea. Weeks later she took the same test at a hospital, and it came back negative.
Turns out Tom had been waking her up several times during the night, thus making the test positive when she took it at home. Why would he do this you ask? So if she suddenly stopped breathing in the night, the cause would be her sleep apnea, not Tom... He was planning on suffocating her in the night... Sick freak.
Update
SO we were going through all of Tom's computers and flash drives today, and he pretty much cleared everything from his computer. There is a missing 8gig drive, and we guess that he backed up everything important on there and hid it somewhere.
Also, we went through his Opera history (the only one he didnt delete history from) and there were SSA.gov sites and Laywers.com with the topic "Driving with a Suspended License", because he was not able to get one of his own.
Last edited by dclamp; Aug 27th, 2009 at 12:29 AM.
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Aug 21st, 2009, 04:49 AM
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Fanatic Member
Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
Sounds like the pefect "made for TV" movie. Wow. How is she doing?
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Aug 21st, 2009, 08:26 AM
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Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
Well i didnt go over there after my friend left my house, but i was texting her and i guess they actually had a laugh about it. I mean, yeah they were sad, they thought they had the perfect Husband/Step-Dad or whatever, but they were able to laugh about it.
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Aug 21st, 2009, 08:31 AM
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Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
wow. im curious to what he was wanted for. But im really glad that it seems like they found out before he could to anything bad to the mom or the daughters.
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Aug 21st, 2009, 08:59 AM
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Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
So you have a girl for a "best friend"...is she hot? Better still is Julie hot? I'd move to CA for a hot single mom.
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Aug 21st, 2009, 09:44 AM
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Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
 Originally Posted by ProphetBeal
So you have a girl for a "best friend"...is she hot? Better still is Julie hot? I'd move to CA for a hot single mom.
Way to comprehend the full gravity of the situation.
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Aug 21st, 2009, 10:04 AM
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Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
seeing how
a) Everyone involved is physically fine (except Tom who will now be spending some time in a federal pound me in the a$$ prison)
b) I've already had this discussion with the dClamp
c) I can cheer Julie up (and pay my own bills)
d) ...I've lost my train of thought so will end the list here
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Aug 21st, 2009, 10:56 AM
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Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
 Originally Posted by ProphetBeal
So you have a girl for a "best friend"...
My best friend is a girl, what's wrong with it?
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Aug 21st, 2009, 12:41 PM
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Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
Creepy. No offense, but this story's like a check list of "maybe it should've raised some suspicion when..." I'm glad no one was hurt or burglarized or anything else, though. I too am now curious what Tom's various offenses are...
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Aug 21st, 2009, 12:52 PM
#10
Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
Probably Identity Theft, theft by deception... and having done it across state lines, makes it a felony.
-tg
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Aug 21st, 2009, 02:45 PM
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Fanatic Member
Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
Here's to us!
Who's like us?
Darned few, and they're all dead!
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Aug 21st, 2009, 04:23 PM
#12
Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
I really want to know what he did too. My dad is a police officer, so if i find out the guys real name, i can just ask my dad to run it.
@SambaNeko: Yea a few things i thought were weird before i heard about the fraud. 1, when he came from the east coast, he took a bus. He said Planes scared him, and he didnt want to go by train. Because security is so tight at airports and train stations, i am sure he would have been spotted and found. Also, he has no pictures on his facebook, probably trying not to associate his fake name with his face.
@ProphetBeal: no she isnt hott actually... And her mom, not either. 
I am looking through the online news papers to see if it was in the news.
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Aug 21st, 2009, 04:36 PM
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Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
 Originally Posted by JuggaloBrotha
My best friend is a girl, what's wrong with it?
Man, that is like, soooooo gay.
I don't live here any more.
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Aug 22nd, 2009, 11:26 PM
#14
Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
So i guess this guy has been going from single woman to single woman pretending to be a good guy, gaining their trust, and when they arnt home, he leaves them with all of their valuables.
When the police talked to him, he said that he was actually starting to get attached this family, and care about them, so he was going to leave them, but not hurt them and take their stuff because he cared about them, and they didnt deserve to be deceived.
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Aug 23rd, 2009, 08:50 AM
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Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
 Originally Posted by dclamp
When the police talked to him, he said that he was actually starting to get attached this family, and care about them, so he was going to leave them, but not hurt them and take their stuff because he cared about them, and they didnt deserve to be deceived.
Riiiiiiiiight. Amazing how his change of heart coincides with his getting caught.
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Aug 23rd, 2009, 03:25 PM
#16
Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
Something else that i found out: Since the guy moved in, Julie had problems sleeping, so she took an at home sleep apnea test, it came back positive for sleep apnea. Weeks later she took the same test at a hospital, and it came back negative.
Turns out Tom had been waking her up several times during the night, thus making the test positive when she took it at home. Why would he do this you ask? So if she suddenly stopped breathing in the night, the cause would be her sleep apnea, not Tom... He was planning on suffocating her in the night... Sick freak.
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Aug 25th, 2009, 04:49 AM
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Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
Its amazing that the police in America swarm the house and arrest a fraudster at gun point. What do thy do when the suspect is armed? Of course, they send a negotiator. 
My not so expert analysis tells me that I should consult the fraud triangle:
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Aug 25th, 2009, 09:12 AM
#18
Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
They had the house totally surrounded i found out. I guess the blocked my whole street off and the street behind their house. Police were in front, back left right of the house and there was a helicopter.
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Aug 25th, 2009, 11:13 AM
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Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
Its amazing that the police in America swarm the house and arrest a fraudster at gun point.
Given this bit of the story:-
He was planning on suffocating her in the night
It doesn't sound like he was just a regular fraudster buit a potentially extremely dangerous individual.
It's always wierd looking at intelligent people who've been conned. We want to slap our foreheads and scream our derision at them. It still keeps happening, though, which just goes to show how monumental Man's capacity for self delusion really is.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter - Winston Churchill
Hadoop actually sounds more like the way they greet each other in Yorkshire - Inferrd
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Aug 25th, 2009, 12:10 PM
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Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
 Originally Posted by visualAd
Its amazing that the police in America swarm the house and arrest a fraudster at gun point. What do thy do when the suspect is armed? Of course, they send a negotiator. 
Maybe in the city. Here in the sticks we gut shoot them, and leave them for dead.
That is the very essence of human beings and our very unique capability to perform complex reasoning and actually use our perception to further our understanding of things. We like to solve problems. -Kleinma
Does your code in post #46 look like my code in #45? No, it doesn't. Therefore, wrong is how it looks. - jmcilhinney
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Aug 25th, 2009, 12:49 PM
#21
Fanatic Member
Re: [Serious] Umm, i Told you so....?
 Originally Posted by dclamp
They had the house totally surrounded i found out. I guess the blocked my whole street off and the street behind their house. Police were in front, back left right of the house and there was a helicopter.

But they forgot about underneath the house. They should have tunneled underneath the house to be really thorough.
 Make as many mistakes as you can as quickly as you can. We want to make sure that we make a great enough number of mistakes in a given amount of time so that we can be successful.
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