[RESOLVED] Can we please have our WPF board now

[DeanMc]

From me, chris182 and techgnome.............. Please!

[chris128]

haha Chris128*

but yeah, please we will be good, we promise.

[DeanMc]

Ok il add more. I understand that this board will be slow moving but at least people will get their questions seen as the VB.NET board moves to fast for WPF. I promise that if you give us our board I will take good care of it and promise to help as many people as I can!

[chris128]

We need techgnome's moderator status to get the ball rolling methinks

[DeanMc]

I agree!

[MartinLiss]

While we do add new sub-forums from time to time you must realize that this is essentially a Visual Basic forum and we would only consider adding a new non-VB sub-forum if and when WPF became very popular and there was a large demand for such a sub-forum.

[DeanMc]

Would it help if I said WPF wasn't language specific and could also cover silverlight?

[dee-u]

A .Net General section could also provide a worthy alternative so we could dump there anything that is not language specific.

[MartinLiss]

Would it help if I said WPF wasn't language specific and could also cover silverlight?

While the final decision is not up to me I would say not since there are any number of other topics that fall into that same catagory and we don't have plans to add them either.

[chris128]

I dont get it though, WPF can be built using Vb.NET code... you cant say that about anything else that isnt already on this forum can you? We have ASP sections and to me WPF is just the same as ASP in terms of its relationship to VB - i.e you design your user interface using markup language and then write your code in a VB file.
I know we cant just go having a forum for everything but WPF is almost certainly going to be a pretty major part of the future of VB isnt it? I suppose moaning isnt going to help really but I just dont see the argument against it really as I dont see it as a non-VB subject any more than ASP, Database programming, Office development etc

[MartinLiss]

I'll bring up the suggestion that dee-u made in post #8.

[DeanMc]

A .NET section would not suffice as it is too general, WPF is a whole technology in its self. If the final answer turns out to be no, and please understand I mean no disrespect by this, I will be quite annoyed at what I see as a failure to embrace new technology. The current board moves too quickly to enable posters to get answers on WPF as the original poster and the helper will both need to work at the solution. I dont see any good reason not to have a WPF board as even Microsoft is churning out high quality video's on the subject and gives the technology a lot of backing. While current members also have a chance to talk about something they no nothing about, we may also get new members with fresh insights into programming and UI development.

I would like to state that I do respect the final decision whatever the case, I just feel that I need to present my case.

[MartinLiss]

A .NET section would not suffice as it is too general, WPF is a whole technology in its self. If the final answer turns out to be no, and please understand I mean no disrespect by this, I will be quite annoyed at what I see as a failure to embrace new technology. The current board moves too quickly to enable posters to get answers on WPF as the original poster and the helper will both need to work at the solution. I dont see any good reason not to have a WPF board as even Microsoft is churning out high quality video's on the subject and gives the technology a lot of backing. While current members also have a chance to talk about something they no nothing about, we may also get new members with fresh insights into programming and UI development.

I would like to state that I do respect the final decision whatever the case, I just feel that I need to present my case.

And you have. Thank you for your input and interest.

[DeanMc]

Your welcome

[RobDog888]

I think a whole forum or subforum wouldnt be logically correct for this technology.

Basically we have WinForms, WPF, UserControls etc all under each of the .NET languages.

Perhaps when we get the vBulleting software upgrade it will be easier and better to use the "Thread Prefixes" as a means to separate threads in each forum.

Currently we are using a javascript hack to allow the choice of "[2005]" or "[2008]" etc when posting a thread. With prefixes we get a dropdown of available choices which we can make say "WinForms", "WPF" or "UserControl" etc. There will be no need to create a forum or subforum for any variation or future variation of .NET

[brad jones]

Thread Prefixes might handle WPF. Let us look into this and get back with you. Give me a couple of days as Today was a holiday for us and Tuesday is going to be chaotic as well.

We'll give this a serious look and consideration. It might be thread prefixes or a new forum. The mods will discuss.

There is no argument on the importance of WPF. Then again, there are other technologies equally important, so we have to weigh how to make it all work for the best.

Thanks guys.

Brad!

If someone wants to have fun - determine how many WPF posts and threads were created in the last 30 days and last year. That is the best way to push for a new forum

[DeanMc]

cool.

[DeanMc]

Hi Brad, any update on this. I've looked at the boards. Threads with the term WPF there was 21 last month and 191 in total, I know this is small but the results do show something else, there is more or less an increase per month which means that interest is growing.

Thanks
Dean

[MartinLiss]

We're discussing this now. I doubt that the outcome will be a WPF-specific forum but we may do something.

[DeanMc]

Cool, progress is always good

[DeanMc]

Would it be rude to ask the outcome of yesterday's meeting?

[si_the_geek]

By "now" Marty didn't mean specifically at that moment - just that a moderator discussion is in progress (in a thread in a private forum).

As yet there has been no decision, just a discussion of the various options.

[DeanMc]

Oh sorry I didn't realise how it worked, Thanks for the update SI.

[techgnome]

Patience grasshopper.... feel the force flowing through you.... wax on, wax off....

-tg

[chris128]

Trying to understand WPF is driving me mad enough as it is...then I see this post about grasshoppers and wax! What are you trying to do, tip me over the edge??

[DeanMc]

I feel some how more relaxed thanks techgnome. Lol chris you would understand better if you read the ebook I gave you.

[chris128]

I know but reading takes so long playing around typing in XAML takes just minutes... and then hours to find out why it isnt working
I will read it tonight, or at least some of it. I'm just reading this at the mo, which is teaching me a fair bit http://www.codeproject.com/KB/WPF/GuidedTourWPF_4.aspx

[brad jones]

update:

It looks like we will probably rename the .NET Architecture and Design forum to be a .NET Framework forum. WPF questions would fall into it.

Brad!

[DeanMc]

I agree that would be a sensible compromise considering WPF is still quite new in terms of adoption rate. Thank you for taking the time to look over my request and thank you mods for coming up with the above solution!

I promise to keep as active as I can in the renamed board. (If this becomes the final decision of course)

[chris128]

If you do decide to revamp the Architecture and Design forum then would it be possible to change it so that it doesnt delete all threads older than 30 days?

EDIT: OK I just realised thats just a view option but I assume its set as default on that part of the forum as I have never changed it. So the question should really of been: "Can you remove the default setting of only showing posts withing the last 30 days"

[DeanMc]

I dont think it deletes them it just hides them.

[MartinLiss]

If you do decide to revamp the Architecture and Design forum then would it be possible to change it so that it doesnt delete all threads older than 30 days?

EDIT: OK I just realised thats just a view option but I assume its set as default on that part of the forum as I have never changed it. So the question should really of been: "Can you remove the default setting of only showing posts withing the last 30 days"

The default is, I believe, 2 days. You may have at some time gone to your User CP|Edit Options and changed it to 30 days. You can change that of course but it affects all the forums.

[MartinLiss]

Ta da! (you can all thank Brad)

[DeanMc]

Can I just say to all the moderators, thanks for taking the time to look over the subject of adding this new board. Also thank you for such a speedy decision!

[techgnome]

Hey Dean, you could probably mark this thread as resolved now too!

-tg

[DeanMc]

With Pleasure!