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Aug 7th, 2008, 02:35 PM
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clean computer
how do you completely wipe a hard drive. Completely clean it so that it is like when you bought it completely clean.
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Aug 7th, 2008, 03:05 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
how do you completely wipe a hard drive. Completely clean it so that it is like when you bought it completely clean.
There are commercial software's available for that.
Here's one --> http://www.whitecanyon.com/wipe-hard-disk.php
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Aug 7th, 2008, 03:23 PM
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Re: clean computer
i have used dBan that works good.
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Aug 7th, 2008, 03:35 PM
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Re: clean computer
do you need to install windows again after using it?
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Aug 7th, 2008, 03:38 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
do you need to install windows again after using it?
Which disk do you want to clean?
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Aug 7th, 2008, 03:49 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
do you need to install windows again after using it?
and which program are you talking about.
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Aug 7th, 2008, 03:50 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
how do you completely wipe a hard drive. Completely clean it so that it is like when you bought it completely clean.
there is no way to completly clean an installation of windows without removing windows and wiping the entire drive.
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Aug 7th, 2008, 04:01 PM
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Re: clean computer
does that mean i have to buy windows again
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Aug 7th, 2008, 04:04 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
does that mean i have to buy windows again
do you have disks?
you can get a close approximation however simply by uninstalling everything in add/remove programs, clearing all history, and creating a new user name then deleting the old ones.
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Aug 7th, 2008, 04:11 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
does that mean i have to buy windows again
no, just reinstall using the CD that you have.
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Aug 7th, 2008, 04:26 PM
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Re: clean computer
Moving to General PC. Keep technical questions out of Chit Chat.
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Aug 7th, 2008, 05:22 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
how do you completely wipe a hard drive. Completely clean it so that it is like when you bought it completely clean.
Boot up a live distribution of Linux from CD and execute the following script. It will wipe your hard disk byte for byte with alternating random and zero data 16 times over 
Code:
#!/bin/bash
COUNT="1"
# find sector count
SECTORS=/sbin/hdparm -g $1 | awk ' {ORS=""; FS=","; print $2}' | sed -e "s/sectors = //"
while [ $COUNT -lt 17 ]
do
MOD=$[ $COUNT%2 ]
# alternate random and zero fill
if [ $MOD -eq 1 ]
then
echo "Pass $COUNT (random)"
dd if=/dev/urandom bs=512 count=$SECTORS of=$1
else
echo "Pass $COUNT (zero)"
dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=$SECTORS of=$1
fi
# increase count
COUNT=$[ $COUNT+1 ]
done
wipe.sh /dev/hda1
Use with care.
Last edited by visualAd; Aug 7th, 2008 at 05:25 PM.
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Aug 7th, 2008, 05:25 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by dclamp
there is no way to completly clean an installation of windows without removing windows and wiping the entire drive.
there's always a way
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Aug 7th, 2008, 09:42 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
does that mean i have to buy windows again
where is your windows installation? on the hard-disk?
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Aug 8th, 2008, 03:20 AM
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Re: clean computer
What exactly do you want to achieve?
Do you want a completely empty hard drive?
Or did you buy a computer with Windows preinstalled and you want to return to that original situation?
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Aug 8th, 2008, 10:17 AM
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Re: clean computer
I have wiped everything from Local disk manually except for the things in the WINDOWS folder. This contains 8 gb so I was wondering if I should delete some stuff or not cause i dont want to stuff the computer.
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Aug 8th, 2008, 11:59 AM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
I have wiped everything from Local disk manually except for the things in the WINDOWS folder. This contains 8 gb so I was wondering if I should delete some stuff or not cause i dont want to stuff the computer.
That would depend on what your objective is. If you want to wipe the computer clean, delete everything on there. You will have to RE-INSTALL windows. RE-INSTALLING does not require you to BUY windows again.
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Aug 8th, 2008, 12:18 PM
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Aug 8th, 2008, 01:04 PM
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Re: clean computer
By using your XP CD that should have come with the machine.
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Aug 8th, 2008, 01:14 PM
#20
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Re: clean computer
it didnt thou. It just came with XP preinstalled
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Aug 8th, 2008, 01:22 PM
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Re: clean computer
Most machines do, but there should be a package some where in the packaging that contains a number of CDs, one of which should be XP.
Every machine I ever bought did.
Regardless, if you don't have the operating system, and you wipe your hard drive, XP will be just as gone as everything else. The only way, at that point, to get it back, would be to go out and purchase XP.
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Aug 8th, 2008, 01:31 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
it didnt thou. It just came with XP preinstalled
Is the setup located on the hard-disk? Some manufacturers do that.
Not in US though.
Last edited by abhijit; Aug 8th, 2008 at 01:32 PM.
Reason: Remembered my old compaq laptop in India.
Everything that has a computer in will fail. Everything in your life, from a watch to a car to, you know, a radio, to an iPhone, it will fail if it has a computer in it. They should kill the people who made those things.- 'Woz'
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Aug 8th, 2008, 01:46 PM
#23
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Re: clean computer
mine is UK. Where on the hard disk would it be.
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Aug 8th, 2008, 01:52 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
mine is UK. Where on the hard disk would it be.
You would have to search for it. If you have cleaned the rest of the hard-disk, my guess is that its gone.
Everything that has a computer in will fail. Everything in your life, from a watch to a car to, you know, a radio, to an iPhone, it will fail if it has a computer in it. They should kill the people who made those things.- 'Woz'
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Aug 8th, 2008, 02:34 PM
#25
Re: clean computer
Have you actually cleaned it yet, or are you still thinking about it?
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Aug 8th, 2008, 03:00 PM
#26
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Re: clean computer
well i deleted everything from add and remove and everything else except microsoft office. the only real folder with lots of stuff is the WINDOWS folder.
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Aug 8th, 2008, 06:46 PM
#27
Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by abhijit
Is the setup located on the hard-disk? Some manufacturers do that.
Not in US though.
HP did it. Got sued but the computers are still out there
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Aug 8th, 2008, 07:20 PM
#28
Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
well i deleted everything from add and remove and everything else except microsoft office. the only real folder with lots of stuff is the WINDOWS folder.
this folder is around 2gb with a clean install. I wouldn't be too concerned. You might consider running a registry cleaning program though to clean up the junk and compact it. Plenty of share/freeware versions of pro tools available.
I use tweakvi
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Aug 8th, 2008, 08:44 PM
#29
Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by Lord Orwell
this folder is around 2gb with a clean install. I wouldn't be too concerned. You might consider running a registry cleaning program though to clean up the junk and compact it. Plenty of share/freeware versions of pro tools available.
I use tweakvi
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Aug 8th, 2008, 10:01 PM
#30
Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by tarik666
well i deleted everything from add and remove and everything else except microsoft office. the only real folder with lots of stuff is the WINDOWS folder.
If you don't have installation disks, can you write / contact the manufacturer for new disks?
Everything that has a computer in will fail. Everything in your life, from a watch to a car to, you know, a radio, to an iPhone, it will fail if it has a computer in it. They should kill the people who made those things.- 'Woz'
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Aug 8th, 2008, 10:40 PM
#31
Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by abhijit
If you don't have installation disks, can you write / contact the manufacturer for new disks?
i have a feeling they are not just going to send him a free copy of windows...
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Aug 8th, 2008, 11:31 PM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by dclamp
i have a feeling they are not just going to send him a free copy of windows...
hard to say. my dad's gotten three different disk sets from HP. depends on if it's in warranty or not, for starters.
But your system may have just came with a floppy disk and a restore partition on the hard drive you are prohibited from accessing without booting from the floppy. My mother-in-law's laptop is that way.
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Aug 9th, 2008, 07:53 AM
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Re: clean computer
 Originally Posted by dclamp
i have a feeling they are not just going to send him a free copy of windows...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326246
Last edited by abhijit; Aug 9th, 2008 at 08:02 AM.
Everything that has a computer in will fail. Everything in your life, from a watch to a car to, you know, a radio, to an iPhone, it will fail if it has a computer in it. They should kill the people who made those things.- 'Woz'
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Aug 9th, 2008, 09:04 AM
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Re: clean computer
The CD isn't important.
You can download it if you want and it's completely legal.
The issue is whether you have the sticker with the Windows key or not.
It's usually found on the side or back of the pc case.
If you don't have the sticker you have been screwed by the shop where you bought your pc.
In that case you would have to buy a new Windows.
Otherwise, if you do have a sticker, simply download a Windows CD (from eg. 'isohunt.com' and install it using your Windows key.
Or maybe even easier, if you know someone who does have a Windows CD, ask the person to borrow it, or copy it.
Delete it. They just clutter threads anyway.
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Aug 9th, 2008, 05:24 PM
#35
Re: clean computer
make sure you install an oem version for your system if you have an oem key. They are activated differently. for example they don't phone home to microsoft.
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Aug 29th, 2008, 08:02 AM
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Re: clean computer
If XP is installed then the shop must have given you the key somewhere, because otherwise they are doing something illegal buy distributing products
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