Do they really think the earth is flat?

[kregg]

Please for the love of god, nobody else join or even dare post on that site.

You'll lose more brain cells going on that forum than joining a boxing match. And you'll come out looking the same.

[Quasar6]

Clearly you don't have the intellectual POWAH and severely twisted sence of humour that it takes to debate fundies.

[penagate]

Guys, please don't sign up there just to troll.

[kregg]

Clearly you don't have the intellectual POWAH and severely twisted sence of humour that it takes to debate fundies.

What?

For a minute I forgot who I was talking to.

[timeshifter]

Guys, please don't sign up there just to troll.

I managed to get banned for directly addressing the admin and daring him to ban me, using much more profanity than was really necessary. He, being a gracious master, obliged, and I was removed from the forum.

I got a lol out of it.

[dclamp]

so did you stay long enough to see my response...

[penagate]

Nope.

If someone here does believe that the Earth is flat, can they explain exactly how we never fall off? I'm genuinely interested in the reason behind it, and I can never understand it when I read these sites.

Why would you fall off? People on one side of the planet don't fall off because they're upside-down.

[dclamp]

he is saying why arnt we falling of the edge of the earth

[BillGeek]

It's all a conspiracy. "FE"s are conspiring against us, (the world) making us believe that the world is (we are) conspiring against them.

Any takers?

[Quasar6]

It's all a conspiracy. "FE"s are conspiring against us, (the world) making us believe that the world is (we are) conspiring against them.

That's simply not true!

The truth is that although the australians have joined with switzerland in a conspiricy to make you think that the Flat-earthers are conspiring against the american conspiritors in government to make them conspire in the open and provide ammunition for the flat earther's conspiricy paranoia, In fact, it's all a conspiricy to raise the price of cheese in south east london, which combined with global warming (which is actually caused by the oil companies conspiring to increase the cost of oil), will cause a worldwide panic about the environmental cost of homosexuality!

Don't you see? It all makes sense! They called me MAAADDD, but I'll show them! I'm not MAAADDD! MAAADDD is for losers!

I'M INSAAAAAAANE!

[penagate]

he is saying why arnt we falling of the edge of the earth

Why would you fall off the edge of the Earth? What force would make you fall?

[dclamp]

if the earth is flat, there must be an edge. why arnt people just walking off.

[mendhak]

It's a big joke. People who get worked up over their beliefs are the ones who aren't "getting it". I am sure that they are all fully aware that the planet is not flat, but they're doing this for a laugh or out of boredom.

[MaximilianMayrhofer]

Oh no, please feel free to offend. Outrageously. Stupid YEC's.

[Andrew G]

Why would you fall off the edge of the Earth? What force would make you fall?

They don't believe in gravity, just the Earth moving upwards giving us the downwards force keeping us on the ground. So jumping off the edge of the world would cause you to fall (assuming that same dark force energy isn't also going to push you up which i guess would make you just float there )

[penagate]

I suppose the stars and the sun move with us, then.

[kregg]

It's a big joke. People who get worked up over their beliefs are the ones who aren't "getting it". I am sure that they are all fully aware that the planet is not flat, but they're doing this for a laugh or out of boredom.

Thank god I have no self-respect, or otherwise all those posts I'd made would be embarrasing...

[BillGeek]

They don't believe in gravity, just the Earth moving upwards giving us the downwards force keeping us on the ground. So jumping off the edge of the world would cause you to fall (assuming that same dark force energy isn't also going to push you up which i guess would make you just float there )

Should this be the case, how would momentum be explained then? Surely when you jump, you will already be going at a certain rate, thus "increasing" your momentum to som.e...t...h.......

Nevermind. (Now I know why I didn't take science at school)

[NickThissen]

I suppose the stars and the sun move with us, then.

They do. And they are only about 3000 miles away from us apparently.

Also I don't believe conservation of energy applies in the FE model. The sun is just going around in circles above the earth (not around it) yet there is no force making it do this. It's dark energy that makes the sun move that way...

I think what happened here is that someone wanted to start a hoax or joke by claiming the earth is flat and providing some basic false evidence. Then people started asking questions (for example: "why doesn't a flat earth collapse on itself?") and to answer them they had to invent more bullshit (answer: "earth has no gravity, but is accelerating upwards which acts as gravity"). Then other questions ("how do satelites orbit the earth if it has no gravity") and other bullshit answers ("satlelites are fake, they don't exist, it's all a conspiracy")... I think this joke went a bit more extreme then they could imagine lol and now they are stuck with calling everything a conspiracy and calling dark energy the answer to every flaw in their claims.

[abhijit]

The earth is hollow.

You can debate with them too.

[wossname]

If the earth had been accelerating upwards at 1G for the last 6000 years (I'm being sympathetic to the bible-bashers here), then it's current velocity would be well in excess of the speed of light (and I mean about 6190 times faster than the speed of light in a vacuum).

So about the time that Imhotep was whipping slaves the flat Earth would have been infinitely massive (mass increases when velocity approaches the speed of light) and afterwards it would have collapsed into a singularity (Chandrasekhar limit and the Exclusion Principle permitting) and we'd have been too busy fusing with hydrogen ions to be having this fatuous discussion.

[kregg]

Two words about the Earth accelerating upwards theory and gravitational force not existing: Cavendish experiment.

[NickThissen]

If the earth had been accelerating upwards at 1G for the last 6000 years (I'm being sympathetic to the bible-bashers here), then it's current velocity would be well in excess of the speed of light (and I mean about 6190 times faster than the speed of light in a vacuum).

So about the time that Imhotep was whipping slaves the flat Earth would have been infinitely massive (mass increases when velocity approaches the speed of light) and afterwards it would have collapsed into a singularity (Chandrasekhar limit and the Exclusion Principle permitting) and we'd have been too busy fusing with hydrogen ions to be having this fatuous discussion.

Actually, according to relativity, it is perfectly possible for an object to keep accelerating indefinitely without ever reaching the speed of light. Otherwise, the speed of light could be broken fairly easily by things like ion-propelled aircrafts (which can accelerate constantly without the use of fuel) and the theories of relativity would not be seen as accurate or correct today.


Also, you need to specify in relation to what you are measuring / calculating the speed of the earth. If the earth moves at constant acceleration for a billion years, and you would fire a lightbeam upwards after that time, you would not see the lightbeam nearly stationary because your speed of nearly the speed of light. In fact, you see the light beam travel upwards with the speed of light, or nearly 300.000 km/s.

If there was someone in a spaceship nearby however, who is not accelerating with us but is stationary, he would see us moving at 99,99999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the speed that he sees a beam of light travel.

[wossname]

2 things:

1.

ion-propelled aircrafts (which can accelerate constantly without the use of fuel)

They do use fuel, ions, in fact. I suspect this goes some of the way to explaining why they are called ion engines.

2. You cannot see a light beam until it collides with your retina. So you'd have to be looking down the beam in the first place. This is inadvisable.

[NickThissen]

Yeah, but you know what I mean lol...
Using a conventional rocket you would run out of fuel long before you would come even close to the speed of light.

[zaza]

Another thing; relativity doesn't say that you can keep accelerating without reaching the speed of light. As your velocity gets closer to that of light, your consequent mass increase (special rel.) means that it takes an increasing amount of fuel to attain that extra 1km/h. Only objects with no mass actually travel at light speed.

If you mean acceleration in the circular motion sense, then of course you can keep accelerating indefinitely.

[visualAd]

The best way to reach the speed of light is to douse yourself in petroleum gas and set yourself alight . As your mass is converted to heat and electromagnetic energy, you shall surely reach the target speed.

And here is another one, apparently these people believe the American government have covered up two 26^o shifts in the Earths axis last year. It must be difficult trying to keep the existence of a flat planet from everyone and the apparent change in axis of a spherical world

[vbcode1980]

And here is another one, apparently these people believe the American government have covered up two 26^o shifts in the Earths axis last year. It must be difficult trying to keep the existence of a flat planet from everyone and the apparent change in axis of a spherical world

Wow, apparently

If the gov’t does not want something known, then they will ensure the public hears the version prepared for the public and the evidentiary data will be altered to support their official version.

It seems the "gov't" has a full time job covering up everything.
I'm amazed they still have time to govern..
Oh, wait..

[lomnan]

so i went on to the site and now its all starting to make sense. we arent falling off because the big ice wall guarded by ninja penguins is stopping us

[NickThissen]

Another thing; relativity doesn't say that you can keep accelerating without reaching the speed of light. As your velocity gets closer to that of light, your consequent mass increase (special rel.) means that it takes an increasing amount of fuel to attain that extra 1km/h. Only objects with no mass actually travel at light speed.

If you mean acceleration in the circular motion sense, then of course you can keep accelerating indefinitely.

Yeah, the closer you get to the speed of light, the heavier you get, and it takes more force to keep you accelerating at the same rate. However, provided the force can keep increasing indefinitely (which the flat earth community seems to think, it's all dark energy you know), you can keep accelerating indefinitely aswell. Right? :P

[kregg]

so i went on to the site and now its all starting to make sense. we arent falling off because the big ice wall guarded by ninja penguins is stopping us

Were any of those penguins from Happy Feet by any chance?

[timeshifter]

Easiest way to tell: Are they tap dancing?

[wossname]

[kregg]

I personally loved the film.

[BillGeek]

I thought it was... nauseating ...