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    Silent Uncloseable Process

    I'm Building a 'Share your computer' kinda app.
    The user will login with his info, then after 30 be not able to use the computer.
    The problem is that the user sometimes loads a usb drive then kills my program with a simple kill process call.

    I want to:
    #1 make the program run silent in the background.
    #2 make the program not able to be closed by Alt-Ctrl-Del, or Process kill

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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    Brother,
    There is a program in the Code Bank of VBForums, which will allow you to block Ctrl + Alt + Del in Windows XP. I haven't tested or used it.... But, you better have a look on it...

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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    What about Process killing?
    What if the user loads a usb device, and kills the process?
    and please dont say block usb access.

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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    You can have two executable that run with a timer and check if the other executable is still running. If it isn't then automatically restart it.

    Other than that there's no real way of preventing a process from being killed. Every virus writer out there would have an easy job if processes couldn't be killed by the user.

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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    That's a nice idea..

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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    Quote Originally Posted by halo2pac
    I'm Building a 'Share your computer' kinda app.
    The user will login with his info, then after 30 be not able to use the computer.
    The problem is that the user sometimes loads a usb drive then kills my program with a simple kill process call.

    I want to:
    #1 make the program run silent in the background.
    #2 make the program not able to be closed by Alt-Ctrl-Del, or Process kill
    Why would you want to do that?

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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    I'm a little confused. Could you give a more detailed explaination of what this program is supposed to do?
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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    ok I'll make this easier.
    I want my program to run silent.
    I want it to be unclosable.

    I have seen programs, and I have seen viruses that when I alt-ctrl-del them and kill them they come back. and they do not have windows.
    they only have 1 exe

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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    I can't imagine a good reason you would want the program to be unclosable right off hand.
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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    Sorry for the delayed reply, I had some internet problems.

    I have a bunch of PC's on my I loaned my school.
    I installed my client reservation software on the PCs but the kids close the apps with kill process from a jump drive.

    I feel that my question is being circumvented.

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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    Your question was in doubt because it sounded like you were trying to write a piece of malware which is the first thing I think of when I hear someone trying to build a program that can't be killed or detected in the taskmanager.

    If they are running a program of the usb why not try and disable the usb try, especially autorun? All that is required for that is a simple change of a registry key. This tells you how.
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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    http://www.envisionware.com/
    Thats how my program works.
    But you can close http://www.envisionware.com/, with a jump drive that has a kill process program.
    same with my program.
    I Do Not want to dissable USB.
    Nor Taskmanager.

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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    I guess you're out of luck then. Windows is designed in a way so you can always close an executable in some way. If you couldn't, then it would be impossible to stop a virus or trojan as well.

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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    You might be better off trying to find a way to stop that program or similar programs from running.
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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris001
    I guess you're out of luck then. Windows is designed in a way so you can always close an executable in some way. If you couldn't, then it would be impossible to stop a virus or trojan as well.
    I get those kind of viruses all the time >.>
    and i wonder why I cannot close them with Process manager..

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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    [Edited by MartinLiss - Not the kind of thing we want to post]
    Last edited by MartinLiss; Jul 24th, 2008 at 07:51 PM.
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    Re: Silent Uncloseable Process

    Well thats not what Im looking for but thanks anyway.
    keep the topic open just in case.
    I mean absolutely no dissrespect, nor am I upset in any way...
    Must be just they way i type :S

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