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Jul 17th, 2008, 01:15 AM
#1
Thread Starter
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Silent Uncloseable Process
I'm Building a 'Share your computer' kinda app.
The user will login with his info, then after 30 be not able to use the computer.
The problem is that the user sometimes loads a usb drive then kills my program with a simple kill process call.
I want to:
#1 make the program run silent in the background.
#2 make the program not able to be closed by Alt-Ctrl-Del, or Process kill
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Jul 17th, 2008, 01:40 AM
#2
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
Brother,
There is a program in the Code Bank of VBForums, which will allow you to block Ctrl + Alt + Del in Windows XP. I haven't tested or used it.... But, you better have a look on it...
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Jul 17th, 2008, 02:40 AM
#3
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Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
What about Process killing?
What if the user loads a usb device, and kills the process?
and please dont say block usb access.
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Jul 17th, 2008, 08:24 AM
#4
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
You can have two executable that run with a timer and check if the other executable is still running. If it isn't then automatically restart it.
Other than that there's no real way of preventing a process from being killed. Every virus writer out there would have an easy job if processes couldn't be killed by the user.
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Jul 17th, 2008, 09:12 AM
#5
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
That's a nice idea..
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Jul 17th, 2008, 10:12 AM
#6
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
 Originally Posted by halo2pac
I'm Building a 'Share your computer' kinda app.
The user will login with his info, then after 30 be not able to use the computer.
The problem is that the user sometimes loads a usb drive then kills my program with a simple kill process call.
I want to:
#1 make the program run silent in the background.
#2 make the program not able to be closed by Alt-Ctrl-Del, or Process kill
Why would you want to do that?
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Jul 17th, 2008, 10:33 AM
#7
Addicted Member
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
I'm a little confused. Could you give a more detailed explaination of what this program is supposed to do?
Simple little bugs 13 : Me 1
Law of Bugs - That one bug you missed will be found almost immediately, by your customer.
I wonder if anyone has ever asked for a User Surly interface?
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Jul 17th, 2008, 04:26 PM
#8
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
ok I'll make this easier.
I want my program to run silent.
I want it to be unclosable.
I have seen programs, and I have seen viruses that when I alt-ctrl-del them and kill them they come back. and they do not have windows.
they only have 1 exe
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Jul 17th, 2008, 04:29 PM
#9
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
I need to know the purpose of your app and not what you want it to do. In other words why do you need it to be silent and unclosable?
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Jul 17th, 2008, 04:30 PM
#10
Addicted Member
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
I can't imagine a good reason you would want the program to be unclosable right off hand.
Simple little bugs 13 : Me 1
Law of Bugs - That one bug you missed will be found almost immediately, by your customer.
I wonder if anyone has ever asked for a User Surly interface?
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Jul 24th, 2008, 10:10 AM
#11
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
Sorry for the delayed reply, I had some internet problems.
I have a bunch of PC's on my I loaned my school.
I installed my client reservation software on the PCs but the kids close the apps with kill process from a jump drive.
I feel that my question is being circumvented.
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Jul 24th, 2008, 12:39 PM
#12
Addicted Member
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
Your question was in doubt because it sounded like you were trying to write a piece of malware which is the first thing I think of when I hear someone trying to build a program that can't be killed or detected in the taskmanager.
If they are running a program of the usb why not try and disable the usb try, especially autorun? All that is required for that is a simple change of a registry key. This tells you how.
Simple little bugs 13 : Me 1
Law of Bugs - That one bug you missed will be found almost immediately, by your customer.
I wonder if anyone has ever asked for a User Surly interface?
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Jul 24th, 2008, 12:56 PM
#13
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
http://www.envisionware.com/
Thats how my program works.
But you can close http://www.envisionware.com/, with a jump drive that has a kill process program.
same with my program.
I Do Not want to dissable USB.
Nor Taskmanager.
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Jul 24th, 2008, 02:32 PM
#14
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
I guess you're out of luck then. Windows is designed in a way so you can always close an executable in some way. If you couldn't, then it would be impossible to stop a virus or trojan as well.
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Jul 24th, 2008, 02:38 PM
#15
Addicted Member
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
You might be better off trying to find a way to stop that program or similar programs from running.
Simple little bugs 13 : Me 1
Law of Bugs - That one bug you missed will be found almost immediately, by your customer.
I wonder if anyone has ever asked for a User Surly interface?
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Jul 24th, 2008, 04:28 PM
#16
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
 Originally Posted by Chris001
I guess you're out of luck then. Windows is designed in a way so you can always close an executable in some way. If you couldn't, then it would be impossible to stop a virus or trojan as well.
I get those kind of viruses all the time >.>
and i wonder why I cannot close them with Process manager..
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Jul 24th, 2008, 04:40 PM
#17
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Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
[Edited by MartinLiss - Not the kind of thing we want to post]
Last edited by MartinLiss; Jul 24th, 2008 at 07:51 PM.
Simple little bugs 13 : Me 1
Law of Bugs - That one bug you missed will be found almost immediately, by your customer.
I wonder if anyone has ever asked for a User Surly interface?
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Jul 24th, 2008, 07:36 PM
#18
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Re: Silent Uncloseable Process
Well thats not what Im looking for but thanks anyway.
keep the topic open just in case.
I mean absolutely no dissrespect, nor am I upset in any way...
Must be just they way i type :S
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