Visual Basic - Framework

[-Fire-]

I need to know if he has as to open some APP made in VB.Net without having framework installed!

Using some DLL...

I made a luncher to game online and almost all players does not have framework...

has some skill of the APP to order to lower framework case player does not have?

THX!

sry my bad english

[kleinma]

You would need to make an installer for your app so that when the user installs it on their computer, the installer will check for, and download the .NET framework as needed.

There is NO way to run your program without the framework, so your only options are to let the user know they need to have it, or do as I mentioned and make an installer, which will do it for them.

[-Fire-]

Ahh!!

As I would make this installer to download .Net Framework in case that it does not have?

Thanks!

[kleinma]

Are you asking how you would make an installer?

To give you any help with that, the forum members would need to know the specific version of Visual Studio you use to make your program.

[-Fire-]

Sorry! I use VB.Net 2005, Thanks!

[JuggaloBrotha]

Sorry! I use VB.Net 2005, Thanks!

Express, Standard, Pro?

[-Fire-]

Oh My God!!! hehe

Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition - Created by Microsoft - www.microsoft.com

As I would make this installer to download .Net Framework in case that it does not have?

Help

[jmcilhinney]

Help

If I'm not mistaken people have been trying to but have lacked the information required.

Use the Publish feature of VB Express to create a ClickOnce installer for your project. By default it will download and install the appropriate Framework version before installing your app.

Just note that ClickOnce deployment does have some caveats and limitations. Everyone should read about ClickOnce before using it to ensure that it meets their needs.

[RobDog888]

The reason why Express vs the other versions like Standard or Pro was asked is because ClickOnce only comes with Express and Express does not have the more powerful Setup project templates for creating a more advanced installation package.

[jmcilhinney]

ClickOnce only comes with Express

Perhaps I'm misinterpreting this Rob but it sounds like you're saying that VS Standard and above don't support ClickOnce. In fact, all versions of VS support ClickOnce publishing. If I'm not mistaken you need Pro or above for Setup projects, although I'm not 100% sure that Standard doesn't include that feature.

[-Fire-]

Somebody could explain oque to me is this ClickOnce and as to use, some example...

Now I am more confused of what already it was! hehe

Sorry my bad english again. Thanks

[kleinma]

I think he meant "Only ClickOnce comes with Express"

Probably just the brain and fingers out of sync

[kleinma]

Fire do you like to read?

This is where you should start:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...3d(VS.80).aspx

[-Fire-]

Fire do you like to read?

This is where you should start:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...3d(VS.80).aspx

Thanks a lot!

[RobDog888]

Well I run VSTS and there is no ClickOnce in my Setup and Deployment project types. There is the Publish support but ...

[RobDog888]

I'm not saying it doesnt support it but that the default method is the Setup project templates in any non-Express version. In fact Express C++ is the only one that doesnt support or come with ClickOnce.

[jmcilhinney]

Well I run VSTS and there is no ClickOnce in my Setup and Deployment project types. There is the Publish support but ...

That's exactly the point. You don't create a project to make a ClickOnce package. In all versions of VS, from Express to Team Suite, you run the Publish wizard and that bundles the project into a ClickOnce package.

EDIT: Check out the Deployment Tools item in this table. "All tools" means ClickOnce and Windows Installer, i.e. Publishing and Setup projects. It also notes that VS Standard supports ClickOnce only, which I wasn't sure of. There's no equivalent page for 2008 that I'm aware of but I'd imagine that it's the same.

[RobDog888]

Well I guess I needed to elaborate instead of elipsising it.

[-Fire-]

it has as when initiating the APP... case the player does not have framework the APP of the one speaking message of error that it does not have framework...case the player does not have framework the APP of the one speaking message of error that it does not have framework, it has as to make?

sry my bad english hehe

Thanks

[Orbit__]

There is a way to run a program without .net framework installed
surprised huh but this is the truth
All you need is the program named "thininstall"
it will combine .net framework with your .exe and you can then use it without installing .netframework

[kebo]

There is a way to run a program without .net framework installed
surprised huh but this is the truth
All you need is the program named "thininstall"
it will combine .net framework with your .exe and you can then use it without installing .netframework

I guess with enough money, anything is possible....

From the VMware site...

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Price

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Includes one license of Workstation, one ThinApp Virtualization Packager, and 50 client licenses
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Includes one license of Workstation, one ThinApp Virtualization Packager, and 50 client licenses
$7,325.00

VMware ThinApp 4 Suite + Platinum (24x7) 1 Year Support

Includes one license of Workstation, one ThinApp Virtualization Packager, and 50 client licenses
$6,250.00

VMware ThinApp 4 Suite + Gold (12x5) 3 Year Support

Includes one license of Workstation, one ThinApp Virtualization Packager, and 50 client licenses
$7,677.50

VMware ThinApp 4 Suite + Gold (12x5) 2 Year Support

Includes one license of Workstation, one ThinApp Virtualization Packager, and 50 client licenses
$6,953.00

VMware ThinApp 4 Suite + Gold (12x5) 1 Year Support

Includes one license of Workstation, one ThinApp Virtualization Packager, and 50 client licenses
$6,050.00

its an expensive way to go since the framework is free

[-Fire-]

if I to place this DLL in the indidica folder without installing framework? HEHEHE

[JuggaloBrotha]

if I to place this DLL in the indidica folder without installing framework? HEHEHE

What about the dll reference calls you make that aren't on that list? That list is just the default imported namespaces to shorten the code using the intellisence, not to mention the .Net framework has the clr which I doubt you'd be able to find that program easily and make it work from the flash drive

[jmcilhinney]

When you build your project it is not compiled to machine code as normal executables are. It is compiled to Microsoft Intermediate Language (MSIL). All .NET languages, including VB, C#, Delphi, etc., are compiled to the same MSIL. That's what you deploy.

On the end user's system the .NET Just In Time (JIT) compiler will compile that MSIL to machine code as and when it's needed so the processor can execute it. The JIT compiler is part of the .NET Framework. If you don't install the Framework then you have no JIT compiler so you cannot run ANY .NET applications.

Products like Thinstall actually compile the .NET code to machine code in one way or another. That breaks the dependency on the .NET Framework but it also removes the advantages of the common Framework.

For goodness sake stop wating your time and everyone else's and just tell your users to install the Framework. This question has been asked an answered many times and the answer is always the same.