Now you can't wear your favourite clothes to a flight ...

[honeybee]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/7431640.stm


I don't know if the security people have just mortgaged their common sense as the house mortgage is no more lucrative. Bet it didn't help them financially if they did it.

Seriously, if things have come this far, I guess we move back to the stone age and go naked everywhere.

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[Foxer]

Sheesh. Whats the world coming to.

Madness everywhere.

[penagate]

It is a theoretical risk because other (paranoid) passengers might become upset if they see an image of a weapon onboard the aircraft.

This doesn't explain why airlines insist on showing James Bond films on international flights though.

[honeybee]

What if I am afraid of well-built people? Will the airline allow only skinny persons to board my flight?

What if I hate to see ugly faces?

The possibilities are endless, or to rephrase that, this opens a can of worms...

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[Tom Sawyer]

I think that everyone is missing the more important issue here. If you will all recall, the Transformers movie sucked on so many levels that anyone who displays public support for it needs to be harrassed and inconvenienced at every conceivable opportunity in order to serve as an object lesson to anyone else who would make a similar choice.

I think that we should thank the security officials here for doing their part towards helping to sheild people from having to remember this crappy film.

[kregg]

I think that everyone is missing the more important issue here. If you will all recall, the Transformers movie sucked on so many levels that anyone who displays public support for it needs to be harrassed and inconvenienced at every conceivable opportunity in order to serve as an object lesson to anyone else who would make a similar choice.

I think that we should thank the security officials here for doing their part towards helping to sheild people from having to remember this crappy film.

Lies! All damned lies!!

[schoolbusdriver]

@ honeybee

Surely you're not questioning the integrity of the people who are trying their best to keep you from getting blown-up ?

Dress codes exist everywhere. Police are expected to wear uniforms, as are doctors/nurses. You can't get into some clubs if you wear trainers, or don't wear a tie. Lab coats ? Hi-Viz ? The list goes on. Your clothing indicates your identity. The transformers t-shirt clearly identified that individual as a dolt.

[Shaggy Hiker]

@ honeybee

Surely you're not questioning the integrity of the people who are trying their best to keep you from getting blown-up ?

Dress codes exist everywhere. Police are expected to wear uniforms, as are doctors/nurses. You can't get into some clubs if you wear trainers, or don't wear a tie. Lab coats ? Hi-Viz ? The list goes on. Your clothing indicates your identity. The transformers t-shirt clearly identified that individual as a dolt.

Nice setup, nice delivery.

[Foxer]

Dress codes exist everywhere. Police are expected to wear uniforms, as are doctors/nurses. You can't get into some clubs if you wear trainers, or don't wear a tie. Lab coats ? Hi-Viz ? The list goes on. Your clothing indicates your identity. The transformers t-shirt clearly identified that individual as a dolt.

And the dolt changing his shirt no longer makes him a dolt? No - he is still a dolt for buy/owning/wearing the T-Shirt.

Aircraft are nothing more than public transport where no dress code applies. If this guy can catch a bus wearing that shirt then why can't he catch a plane wearing that shirt? He is no more/less a security threat, either actually or implied.

I think the larger dolt is the security guard who didn't recognise it as a major Spielburg blockbuster movie - for bettter or worse.

[honeybee]

@ honeybee

Surely you're not questioning the integrity of the people who are trying their best to keep you from getting blown-up ?

Dress codes exist everywhere. Police are expected to wear uniforms, as are doctors/nurses. You can't get into some clubs if you wear trainers, or don't wear a tie. Lab coats ? Hi-Viz ? The list goes on. Your clothing indicates your identity. The transformers t-shirt clearly identified that individual as a dolt.

Integrity? I am questioning their common-sense. Or just plain sense.

Talking of dress codes, since when did airlines start telling what people should wear and not wear on board?

Your analogy doesn't fit, because policemen are expected to wear uniforms only when on duty. If a policeman were to take a vacation and visit a beach, he would be a dolt if he donned a uniform there.

Sorry to say, but I think the people who didn't allow the T-shirt in question appear to me to be the dolts.

And on what basis do you say clothing indicates the identity of the wearer? Do you think the terrorists of 9/11 had all worn T shirts of burning planes? Get real, mate.

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[schoolbusdriver]

@ Foxer & honeybee. I think you have misunderstood the intent of my previous post. However, just to clarify:

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And the dolt changing his shirt no longer makes him a dolt? No - he is still a dolt for buy/owning/wearing the T-Shirt.

Correct.

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Aircraft are nothing more than public transport where no dress code applies.

Incorrect. You MUST be suitably dressed to be allowed on public transport. For example, someone attempting to board any form of passenger carrying transport wearing filthy clothing with an overpowering miasma of urine will undoubtedly be refused. Unless, of course, the driver/captain etc is in an evil mood and wants the other passengers to suffer.

3)

If this guy can catch a bus wearing that shirt then why can't he catch a plane wearing that shirt? He is no more/less a security threat, either actually or implied.

Who says I'd let him on my bus ? Strangely, adults sometimes attempt to board the buses I drive. They're probably perverts.

The caricature of a transformer gun could also be objectionable to other transformers.

4)

I think the larger dolt is the security guard who didn't recognise it as a major Spielburg blockbuster movie - for bettter or worse.

The story says he was "challenged by an official" and "[The official's] supervisor" - that's 2 personnel who considered the t-shirt objectionable. Might is right.

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Integrity? I am questioning their common-sense. Or just plain sense.

The aircraft that he eventually boarded (after changing his t-shirt) arrived safely - vindicating the officials decision.

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Talking of dress codes, since when did airlines start telling what people should wear and not wear on board?

See point 2 above. You seem to have missed a previous lecture of mine about the "rights" of potential and actual passengers. You have less "rights" than someone facing a firing squad. You will do as you're told, or else. The only "right" you have is to make a run for it before we get you.

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Your analogy doesn't fit, because policemen are expected to wear uniforms only when on duty. If a policeman were to take a vacation and visit a beach, he would be a dolt if he donned a uniform there.

/*Sigh*/. A policeman on vacation visiting a beach would probably wear swimming trunks, identifying him as someone on vacation visiting a beach.

8)

Sorry to say, but I think the people who didn't allow the T-shirt in question appear to me to be the dolts.

A BAA spokesman said there was no record of the incident and no "formal complaint" had been made.

By complying with the officials instructions without complaint, thereby abasing himself, he implicitly acknowledged their undoubtedly superior intellect. After all, there was nothing stopping him from attempting to find an alternative means of transportation. Details of his identity and attitude would, of course, be distributed to all other passenger carrying businesses and security agencies. Without prejudice.

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And on what basis do you say clothing indicates the identity of the wearer? Do you think the terrorists of 9/11 had all worn T shirts of burning planes? Get real, mate.

That's a bit fatuous perhaps? We don't know, as their clothing was destroyed.

[kleinma]

It is a theoretical risk because other (paranoid) passengers might become upset if they see an image of a weapon onboard the aircraft.

This doesn't explain why airlines insist on showing James Bond films on international flights though.

The last plane ride I took, the movie selection was between snakes on a plane, flight 93, turbulance, and cast away...

[Shaggy Hiker]

They were probably trying to tell you something.

[honeybee]

Schoolbusdriver, I hope you aren't serious.

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