Windows 95 No Copy Paste

[TheBigB]

Really, the laptop isn't worth any more time than you've spent on it.

I work at the local hardware store as mechanic and in cases like these we look at it for 15 minutes, maybe do a reinstall and otherwise just discard it and advise our clients to buy a new one.

Win95 shouldn't be used anymore.
PC's that are built for Win95 should be thrown away.

[Robbo]

any one

help

windows 95

copy and paste not working, havent a clue why

does work in safe mode so must be some drivers or something

anyone know where to look in registry or files dll i can check cheers

thanks in advance

[Robbo]

Really, the laptop isn't worth any more time than you've spent on it.

I work at the local hardware store as mechanic and in cases like these we look at it for 15 minutes, maybe do a reinstall and otherwise just discard it and advise our clients to buy a new one.

Win95 shouldn't be used anymore.
PC's that are built for Win95 should be thrown away.

hi yeah unfortuanly we havent got the software otherwise i wud

like i say it works

just copy and paste

cant throw away or will have nothing?

can print labels just this ignoyin problem

[Robbo]

cud it be somethin to do with memory

if i change config.sys or anything

putting in DOS UMB or something

[Siddharth Rout]

Ok

Now I am thinking from a different perspective...

1) Which antivirus do you have?
2) If you have an antivirus, then get the latest definitions and then scan the laptop in safemode.

See if this helps...

[Robbo]

Ok

Now I am thinking from a different perspective...

1) Which antivirus do you have?
2) If you have an antivirus, then get the latest definitions and then scan the laptop in safemode.

See if this helps...

the virus checker is sophos

its not connected to the network but is IT polocy to have on there

i did try that to make sure however i scanned normally

but not in safe mode

wud u suggest i do in safe mode, or do u think the scan if clear should be ok

hasnt access to internet or anything so wud be surpprised if virus

but cud it be the virus checker, but not sure how to disable

[Siddharth Rout]

It is just a hunch but it might(???) help if you scan in the safe mode. Also make sure that your Virus definitions are up to date...

[Robbo]

will put in safe mode

do a virus check

do a scan disk

defrag

see what happens

[Siddharth Rout]

will put in safe mode

do a virus check
see what happens

Not sure how defrag and scandisk will help you...

[Robbo]

just thought it may help

have done the virus scan too found nothin

[Robbo]

ok still doesnt work

have uninstalled the virus checker

and still doesnt work

any other ideas

anything logical i will try

windows 95 no paste function

[Lord Orwell]

check your startup items and post the list here.

[Robbo]

check your startup items and post the list here.

well not virus checker now

in start up just office startup

if you let me know i will try out cheers

[Robbo]

check your startup items and post the list here.

how do i get list of start up items then?

[Lord Orwell]

if you have msconfig.exe on your system, you can run that. If not, search for a free program called "startup".

[Robbo]

if you have msconfig.exe on your system, you can run that. If not, search for a free program called "startup".

nar its windows 95 its not on

will have a look but if an exe i wont be able to download it

wudnt mind paste works ok in safe mode LOL

[Robbo]

if you have msconfig.exe on your system, you can run that. If not, search for a free program called "startup".

cheers for that am sure that will come in handy on another PC i have

anyway run it

and in startup

theres only the office prog?

[Lord Orwell]

i am not referring to the startup folder. I am aware the shortcut bar is usually in there. There's a workaround for not having the program. There are numerous registry keys you can edit/view with regedit.
[code]
#
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce registry key
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce registry key

# RunServices subkey : loads immediately after RunServicesOnce and before user logon.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices registry key

# Run subkey : The Run subkey in HKLM runs immediately before the Run subkey in HKCU.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key

# RunOnce subkey : primarily used by Setup programs. The HKLM subkey version of RunOnce runs programs immediately after logon and before other registry Run entries. The HKCU subkey version of RunOnce runs programs after Run subkeys and after the Startup folder.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce registry key XP also has RunOnceEx:
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx registry key

# RunOnce\Setup subkey : specifies programs to run after the user logs on

# Explorer\Run subkey :

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run registry key

# Userinit subkey : there is an entry for userinit.exe but subkey can accept multiple comma- separated values. Can't find where program starting? Look here.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit registry key
# load subkey :
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\load registry key

# All Users Startup folder : very common place to find autostart programs for whoever logs on
Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup folder

# Startup folder : the most common location for programs to automatically boot from
Documents and Settings\user\Start Menu\Programs\Startup folder If you migrated from NT, the path is Profiles\user\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
[/quote]
that's a lot to look through, but the two main keys are these:
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
The offending startup program is almost always in one of those two keys.

[Robbo]

i am not referring to the startup folder. I am aware the shortcut bar is usually in there. There's a workaround for not having the program. There are numerous registry keys you can edit/view with regedit.
[code]
#
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce registry key
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce registry key

# RunServices subkey : loads immediately after RunServicesOnce and before user logon.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices registry key

# Run subkey : The Run subkey in HKLM runs immediately before the Run subkey in HKCU.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key

# RunOnce subkey : primarily used by Setup programs. The HKLM subkey version of RunOnce runs programs immediately after logon and before other registry Run entries. The HKCU subkey version of RunOnce runs programs after Run subkeys and after the Startup folder.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce registry key XP also has RunOnceEx:
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx registry key

# RunOnce\Setup subkey : specifies programs to run after the user logs on

# Explorer\Run subkey :

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run registry key

# Userinit subkey : there is an entry for userinit.exe but subkey can accept multiple comma- separated values. Can't find where program starting? Look here.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit registry key
# load subkey :
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\load registry key

# All Users Startup folder : very common place to find autostart programs for whoever logs on
Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup folder

# Startup folder : the most common location for programs to automatically boot from
Documents and Settings\user\Start Menu\Programs\Startup folder If you migrated from NT, the path is Profiles\user\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

that's a lot to look through, but the two main keys are these:
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
The offending startup program is almost always in one of those two keys.[/QUOTE]


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

theres just 3 asminstboot which think is an it thing C:\tngsd\bin\asminstw,exe /bg boot

RNBOstart C:\windows\system\RNBOSENT\SENTSTRT.EXE

and SDTrigger C:\tngsd\bin\strtrig.exe

theres a few bits in HKLM/Run like system tray and browser check

and thats about it

[Lord Orwell]

browser check?!? Disable that.
You can disable one key at a time by killing the file extension or some such. Make sure you remember the old one. Then reboot and try copy/paste with each one.

[Robbo]

browser check?!? Disable that.
You can disable one key at a time by killing the file extension or some such. Make sure you remember the old one. Then reboot and try copy/paste with each one.

am just gonna try brower check see what that does

your a star

its bluddy working

cheers im a happy bunny now

[randem]

Hint: When you are changing registry keys...

* * * VERY IMPORTANT * * *

Export the old key to a file in case you screw up the edit. Then all you have to do is double-click on the .reg you create and all your registry changes will be back for that key.

[Lord Orwell]

if it's working mark as resolved thanks

[mendhak]

Well, that's a bizarre conclusion to one of the bizarre threads that I've seen in General PC.

I'm not sure, though, how the browser check was related to the copy paste functionality of the operating system.

[Lord Orwell]

because that's not really a program. It's spyware

[Robbo]

is it??

well i took them all out as didnt need to be running

just left system tray

strange problem

copy paste workin in explorer

however in my Graphics Pro Designer when i try to copy

it comes up with:-

Not Enough Storage is available to process this command

and i have to reboot to get copy and paste to work

bluddy Windows 95

any last ideas on this one, as for windows explorer yeah paste works

however unsure how am gonna resolve the GPD

[Lord Orwell]

that sounds like memory related. Make sure you have the swap file turned on. If not, it's possible one of the programs you disabled is related to that program's copy/paste. Do any of their execute paths point into that program's folder?

[Robbo]

that sounds like memory related. Make sure you have the swap file turned on. If not, it's possible one of the programs you disabled is related to that program's copy/paste. Do any of their execute paths point into that program's folder?

ok how do i check the swap file remember that with windows 3.11

ones i disabled cant be them as wasnt working at all before, at least it will copy files in windows explorer now

i think is better but just need to be able to copy and paste in the program

anything i can put in config.sys or check UMB?

[Robbo]

Do any of their execute paths point into that program's folder?

er no

only ones can see are IT ones when log onto the network, however this is stand alone

the only other one i left was the system tray one

[Robbo]

any ideas to finish this one off

think must be a memory thing on the clipboard

as once i copy and paste one file

it then wont copy paste another

[Lord Orwell]

open up clipbook viewer and there should be an option for deleting stored clips from memory. It may be keeping them between uses for some reason. When you look at a program's "help" what does it say your system resources usage is up to both before and after the copy/paste?

[Robbo]

open word 97

total physical memeory 130376 KB
available memory 62836 KB

USER memeory available 90%

swap file file usage 100%
swap file size 0KB

[Lord Orwell]

TURN ON A SWAP FILE!!! you're running out of memory.
you didnt mention if that list was before or after you tried cut/pasting something.

[Robbo]

TURN ON A SWAP FILE!!! you're running out of memory.
you didnt mention if that list was before or after you tried cut/pasting something.

rite know what the swap file is but how do u turn on???

let me know what i can try should i delete the *.swp file?

[Lord Orwell]

how full is the hard drive? win 95 shuts the swap file off if the drive is over a set fullness.
setting is control panel ->System ->Performance ->virtual memory

[Robbo]

how full is the hard drive? win 95 shuts the swap file off if the drive is over a set fullness.
setting is control panel ->System ->Performance ->virtual memory

Capacity is 1.99 GB

Used 1.48Gb

Free 518Mb should be ok

VM is on let windows manage my virtual memory settings recommended

[Lord Orwell]

I am going to assume that's correct although it doesn't matter how big a hard drive is. 95 only recognizes 1.99gb of it. Maybe you can get ahold of a win95 cd and fix it the hard way, with a reinstall.

[Robbo]

I am going to assume that's correct although it doesn't matter how big a hard drive is. 95 only recognizes 1.99gb of it. Maybe you can get ahold of a win95 cd and fix it the hard way, with a reinstall.

hi yeah ive got the win 95 install on the hard drive ive installed again over the top however is just the same still wont copy and paste once its completed