Mac/Pc Rant.

[Ashylay]

Okay so my Mac Gadget thread started a little rant about Mac & PC And somebody suggested a new thread so i made one :P Post your rant.

Mine is: Never happen, but wonder what Apple & Microsoft could be capable of if they teamed up?

[Hack]

Mine is: Never happen, but wonder what Apple & Microsoft could be capable of if they teamed up?

A very, very large, and potentially unhealthy, monopoly.

[RobDog888]

Macs are for people that dont have the basic skill to use a computer. Thus the term MacTard :d

[techgnome]

But what ever they produced would be cool, sleek and s3xy..... until you get the BSOD... At which point you would have to take it in to be fixed, because it's a closed box system, and it would be called the iWindocitosh.

-tg

[Ashylay]

iWindocitosh.

Doubt it. COnsidering they both name things after objects like 'Windows' and 'Apple' It would probably be called 'Bread Knife' or 'Spork' :P

[RobDog888]

Macindows or more accurately MacinDohs!

[Ashylay]

Wacintosh
Wicintosh
Winitosh
Winditosh
Windosh


Macwind << My favourite sounds like a Mcdonalds special offer?

[techgnome]

MacWind - what you break after some McFries....

-tg

[Greyskull]

MacWind - what you break after some McFries....

-tg

Lol.. good one

[dark_shadow]

Okay so my Mac Gadget thread started a little rant about Mac & PC And somebody suggested a new thread so i made one :P Post your rant.

Mine is: Never happen, but wonder what Apple & Microsoft could be capable of if they teamed up?

technically they already have since you can now install and run windows successfully on a mac

but an os built on both would be a scary thought

[BillGeek]

Doubt it. COnsidering they both name things after objects like 'Windows' and 'Apple' It would probably be called 'Bread Knife' or 'Spork' :P

:rofl: CurtainRail 1.0

[wossname]

Windows teaming up with Apple?

Code bloat meets naff shiny plastic.

Yeah, what a revolutionary idea that would be.

[nemaroller]

technically they already have since you can now install and run windows successfully on a mac

Or vice versa:

http://uneasysilence.com/os-x-proven...n-ordinary-pc/

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/com.../2005/08/68501

[capsulecorpjx]

Okay so my Mac Gadget thread started a little rant about Mac & PC And somebody suggested a new thread so i made one :P Post your rant.

Mine is: Never happen, but wonder what Apple & Microsoft could be capable of if they teamed up?

Mac is good for people who don't know how to format and reinstall an OS, which is a lot of people. A small user base also means you're less likely a target of malware and viruses.

Otherwise, it's overpriced and useless in many areas (business, gaming).

PC/Windows is fine if you know how to protect it.

[Arrow_Raider]

I agree that Mac is better for people who suck at using computers, however, Mac also offers a lot for people who generally do know what they are doing.

Just because a product is friendly to idiots doesn't mean it's not even more friendly to non-idiots!

[capsulecorpjx]

I agree that Mac is better for people who suck at using computers, however, Mac also offers a lot for people who generally do know what they are doing.

Just because a product is friendly to idiots doesn't mean it's not even more friendly to non-idiots!

You know I have this theory that the Xbox 360 is actually eroding Windows' user share. I mean if people mostly game on the 360 now (multiplayer with good graphics), then there is no need for PC gaming. No need for PC Gaming removes one of the major incentives for using Windows.

So Mac's OSX might erode Microsoft's Windows due to it's reliability. On the other hand, Linux will continue to erode Microsoft's Server software. However, I believe Active Directory Servers that support Windows Networking, and the use of Windows for Business PCs will stay for a long long time.

[Bobalandi]

Mac And Windows?????!!~?!?!?!?!?!!@!$#%$&%^ What Is This Blasphemy???

[Fromethius]

Okay so my Mac Gadget thread started a little rant about Mac & PC And somebody suggested a new thread so i made one :P Post your rant.

Mine is: Never happen, but wonder what Apple & Microsoft could be capable of if they teamed up?

They already are teamed up. Mac does all the design and implementation and then Windows copies it

[Bonker Gudd]

Don't drive on the right.

[BillGeek]

Or the wrong.

[MaximilianMayrhofer]

Mac and Microsoft teaming up would be like two blind men wandering around in a dark room with blindfolds on searching for the black cat that is good code.

[capsulecorpjx]

Mac and Microsoft teaming up would be like two blind men wandering around in a dark room with blindfolds on searching for the black cat that is good code.

Open source is the future, it's better programming design, as so many people are looking at it (simultaneously developer and critic).

However, this will probably mean we'll be out of the job eventually?

[RobDog888]

Well tehn we are all out of jobs as Microsoft just released the .NET framework source code the other day.

[Fromethius]

Well tehn we are all out of jobs as Microsoft just released the .NET framework source code the other day.

link nao?

[RobDog888]

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archi...available.aspx

VS 2008 only.

[BillGeek]

Open source is the future

I doubt it. As long as we live in a capatalist world... I doubt it very much.

It's like Java. Impressive at first, but once you get to know it, you realize what a mistake you've made. (Now wossy... don't get all offensive... )

[Lord Orwell]

Otherwise, it's overpriced and useless in many areas (business, gaming).

it used to be overpriced when it was on the older chipset. Now that it's intel, it's a comparitive price. My mini was $900 for multi-core, dvd superdrive burner, 2gb ram, etc... And of course you pay for design. Is the super-thin keyboard as functional as a huge qwerty? Not really, but it looks sexy if appearance is an issue (office).

Mac and Microsoft teaming up would be like two blind men wandering around in a dark room with blindfolds on searching for the black cat that is good code.

i think you meant penguin, not cat. But in any case, considering the kernel OSX is built on, i'd say Apple caught it. It isn't exactly easy, but you can run some linux software on it (it comes with x-windows)

And How come there haven't been more worms written for Apples? (a joke)

[zaza]

I believe he was talking about this cat...

Windows teaming up with Apple?

Code bloat meets naff shiny plastic.

Yeah, what a revolutionary idea that would be.

woss prefers command bloat.

[Arrow_Raider]

Opensource isn't the way of the future for corporate america because it doesn't come with a support contract. IT departments only use something if they can shovel out loads of money to someone to get "support." All this support really offers to the IT department is a scapegoat for when something breaks. When someone calls IT and says something is broken, they can tell the person that it isn't the fault of IT. Then the IT worker proceeds to call up "support" and report the problem. 12 months later, it MIGHT be addressed by the support team.

Opensource doesn't work in corporate environments because it doesn't provide that false sense of security offered with proprietary software. Even if opensource software bugs get resolved much quicker, they don't offer the same blame game that exists in proprietary software.

[nemaroller]

Opensource isn't the way of the future for corporate america because it doesn't come with a support contract. IT departments only use something if they can shovel out loads of money to someone to get "support." All this support really offers to the IT department is a scapegoat for when something breaks. When someone calls IT and says something is broken, they can tell the person that it isn't the fault of IT. Then the IT worker proceeds to call up "support" and report the problem. 12 months later, it MIGHT be addressed by the support team.

Opensource doesn't work in corporate environments because it doesn't provide that false sense of security offered with proprietary software. Even if opensource software bugs get resolved much quicker, they don't offer the same blame game that exists in proprietary software.

100% truth!

[Arrow_Raider]

Just take a look at warranties on computers. It's the same deal. You would never purchase an extended warranty for a computer for yourself. But if you are a company, you buy the 400 dollar extended 3 year warranty. Why? Well, I truly have no idea. For laptops, the most common point of failure is the hard drive. You can pick up a replacement drive from newegg for $60-$80. I would guess that maybe 1 out of 10 laptops experience a harddrive death in a period of 4 years. Sometimes the motherboard will die in a laptop, and this is a component that can't easily be replaced. However, this situation is so rare, that it would cost less money to just drop the warranties and replace the few laptops with dead motherboards with brand new laptops. You'd save money, and get newer technology in the process.

[techgnome]

Well tehn we are all out of jobs as Microsoft just released the .NET framework source code the other day.

But it's not Open Source.... and there are strings attached. It's a "look-only to see what the fork is going on under the covers" situation. You can't change it... but you can submit proposed changes. It wasn't intended to be something that the typical day-to-day developer would look at. So just be fore warned before you think you can go all hog-wild with it.

-tg

[RobDog888]

I know I read the details and its also absolutely not licensed for programers that are not developing apps for use on non-windows OS'.

Now whos going to "forget" what they see? All those linux developers will want to look at the code to help better their stuff for linux since linux sucks so much

*runs away in anticipation of wossy's arrival*

[Arrow_Raider]

I'd like to see the source code for controls, especially for WPF. WPF controls allow styling and templating to retheme controls, but you have to currently go off of examples and data from XAMLpad to be able to make a correct template. Usually, I just want to change something minor, keeping everything else the same. This can be a real pain, especially with more complex controls like the combobox. It would be so much nicer if I had access to the default template XAML so that I could just copy and paste it and then tweak it for the changes I want.


Also, by seeing the source and xaml for controls, it would be a lot easier to create proper custom controls.

[Bonker Gudd]

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archi...available.aspx

VS 2008 only.

Web logs

[grilkip]

lol.

[The_Grudge]

Macs are for people that dont have the basic skill to use a computer. Thus the term MacTard :d

I would say that Mac's are also good for people that use Windows all day long at work and want to actually "use" a computer that works when they get home.

Instead of repairing missing registry entries and DLL's I can actually get some work done.

[Tom Sawyer]

Missing registry entries and dll problems? Somebody's having a flashback to the 1990s.

[timeshifter]

I'd have to agree there. I can't remember the last time I had a registry or dll problem with XP.

[Suzzi]

There are some excellent puns/slags in this thread.

But it boils down to: Steve Jobs is evil because he bilked the almight Woz out of thousands of dollars when they were first starting out (Woz built a breakout machine for Atari). Woz, being one of the greatest beings to have walked this earth, doesn't hold a grudge, so I've decided to hold it for him. I will never give Apple any money as long as Jobs has anything to do with them.

See here for full story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakout