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Jan 29th, 2007, 11:49 PM
#1
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N00b Tutorials...
N00b Tutorials
N00b Tutorials, was started by eSPiYa. I dont know what to write about it, some one help ....
Who's Involved:
- dclamp
- espiya
- timeshifter
- tommygrayson
Tutorial Subjects:
- Visual Basic Classic
- VB .NET
- PHP
- ASP .NET
- C#
- C/C++
- Java
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Jan 30th, 2007, 12:01 AM
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by dclamp
N00b Tutorials
N00b Tutorials, was started by eSPiYa. I dont know what to write about it, some one help ....
Who's Involved:
- dclamp
- espiya
- timeshifter
- tommygrayson
Tutorial Subjects:
- Visual Basic Classic
- VB .NET
- PHP
- ASP .NET
- C#
- C/C++
- Java
Are we going to post our tutorial here? Or are we going to attach our tutorial files here?
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Jan 30th, 2007, 12:14 AM
#3
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by tommygrayson
Are we going to post our tutorial here? Or are we going to attach our tutorial files here?
I think, we should get a domain name. and you get to pay for it and hosting
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Jan 30th, 2007, 02:13 AM
#4
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
We've got a new server from gate.com and my boss allowed me to install some site but I think it must not be a forum because of the disk size.
It has only 2 160GB harddrives and the service of our company is to serve image, video and audio clips of news.
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Jan 30th, 2007, 04:46 AM
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Fanatic Member
Re: N00b Tutorials...
We may use .TK for domain name.
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Jan 30th, 2007, 06:19 AM
#6
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by dclamp
I think, we should get a domain name. and you get to pay for it and hosting 
Nice move. Wait a minute and a hundred years. I will get a domain name in no time.
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Jan 30th, 2007, 06:23 AM
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
You may not have noticed this folks, but we have a tutorials section on VBForums (here) which you are more than welcome to post to - and link to as well (which would be debatable for a separate site).
If I notice good articles on the forums I link to them from the relevant FAQ section.. which means your work helps many more people.
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Jan 30th, 2007, 06:28 PM
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Thread Starter
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by si_the_geek
You may not have noticed this folks, but we have a tutorials section on VBForums ( here) which you are more than welcome to post to - and link to as well (which would be debatable for a separate site).
If I notice good articles on the forums I link to them from the relevant FAQ section.. which means your work helps many more people. 
yeah, but it is more fun to have our own site
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Jan 31st, 2007, 12:54 AM
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
I agree w/ dclamp.
Having our own site is a good portfolio, we show our skills.
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Jan 31st, 2007, 10:04 AM
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
I don't see how it would be any different - surely the content would be the same?
The only real difference I can see is the number of people who see it, as here you will get many people looking.. our individual FAQ articles have an average of about 1000 views, and so far we don't really have anything which would be useful to as many people as what you are intending to do.
I very much doubt you would get as many visitors on your own site, but of course the choice is yours!
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Jan 31st, 2007, 06:49 PM
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Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by si_the_geek
I don't see how it would be any different - surely the content would be the same?
The only real difference I can see is the number of people who see it, as here you will get many people looking.. our individual FAQ articles have an average of about 1000 views, and so far we don't really have anything which would be useful to as many people as what you are intending to do.
I very much doubt you would get as many visitors on your own site, but of course the choice is yours!
1) This will be like LightFusion... it will die after a while
2) if we did have our own site, AD! MONEY! 
3) too many other tutorial sites any who.
Last edited by dclamp; Jan 31st, 2007 at 06:49 PM.
Reason: added another thought
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Jan 31st, 2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by dclamp
1) This will be like LightFusion... it will die after a while

I assumed because of the lower level of complexity (LightFusion seemed way OTT, whereas this is manageable) you'd get this finished (eventually!).
2) if we did have our own site, AD! MONEY!
Except you wouldn't get any visitors - as you wouldn't be allowed to link from here, and people wouldn't find it with a search engine. 
3) too many other tutorial sites any who.
True, but if they were good then they'd be in the FAQ's - which would mean thousands of visitors each year (as our FAQ articles are often in the top 10 for relevant searches on the big search engines).
My "How can I use a progress bar?" article was posted on 11-25-2006, and already has over 500 views. A tutorial would be useful to many more people than that one was, so should get even more views.
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Jan 31st, 2007, 07:28 PM
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Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by si_the_geek
I assumed because of the lower level of complexity (LightFusion seemed way OTT, whereas this is manageable) you'd get this finished (eventually!).
Except you wouldn't get any visitors - as you wouldn't be allowed to link from here, and people wouldn't find it with a search engine.
True, but if they were good then they'd be in the FAQ's - which would mean thousands of visitors each year (as our FAQ articles are often in the top 10 for relevant searches on the big search engines).
My "How can I use a progress bar?" article was posted on 11-25-2006, and already has over 500 views. A tutorial would be useful to many more people than that one was, so should get even more views. 
Well, i would love to write tutorials. I will most likely submit them to the FAQ. I mean, if some how we got donated a domain name and everything, then it might happen. But i dont plan to do much with it
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Jun 26th, 2007, 02:17 PM
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Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
Re: N00b Tutorials...
hahaha! oh dear oh dear... how this thread was left in the dust, just as the others are :P.
I have tried making a tutorial, and failed
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Jun 26th, 2007, 10:20 PM
#15
Fanatic Member
Re: N00b Tutorials...
I'm too busy right now for this.
Organizing a team is what I'm doing these past few weeks.
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Jul 11th, 2007, 09:43 PM
#16
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by eSPiYa
I agree w/ dclamp.
Having our own site is a good portfolio, we show our skills. 
Even here you can show your skills.
“victory breeds hatred, the defeated live in pain; happily the peaceful live giving up victory and defeat” - Gautama Buddha
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Jul 11th, 2007, 09:46 PM
#17
PowerPoster
Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by si_the_geek
I don't see how it would be any different - surely the content would be the same?
The only real difference I can see is the number of people who see it, as here you will get many people looking.. our individual FAQ articles have an average of about 1000 views, and so far we don't really have anything which would be useful to as many people as what you are intending to do.
I agreed with you. The most important thing is that how many people are refereeing your tutorial. More people refer it means, a best one. It's encourage to work on the next one.
“victory breeds hatred, the defeated live in pain; happily the peaceful live giving up victory and defeat” - Gautama Buddha
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Jul 11th, 2007, 09:51 PM
#18
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by dclamp
I have tried making a tutorial, and failed 
Try it again pal.
No need to do it withing couple of hours. Take your time and make it well organized. For my tutorial I take three days(around 15 hours), and I failed few times. Change the format around 10times. Even I change the way of organizing it at the time of posting. But at the end I believe that I've done my best.
“victory breeds hatred, the defeated live in pain; happily the peaceful live giving up victory and defeat” - Gautama Buddha
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Jul 11th, 2007, 10:19 PM
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Jul 11th, 2007, 10:35 PM
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
I like posting here. I am at the top of the results of google with anything i post, good or average.
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Jul 12th, 2007, 06:43 AM
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
Even me like to post here. But never mind, if anywhere people are like to work on it I'm there. But not ready for the pay....
“victory breeds hatred, the defeated live in pain; happily the peaceful live giving up victory and defeat” - Gautama Buddha
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Jul 12th, 2007, 06:47 AM
#22
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by eSPiYa
you may join and contribute but it is still not yet organized. 
But we are doing our best. 
May be a better one. I would like to try it...
Hard work gives a best output.
“victory breeds hatred, the defeated live in pain; happily the peaceful live giving up victory and defeat” - Gautama Buddha
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Jul 12th, 2007, 08:46 AM
#23
Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by eranga262154
Try it again pal.
No need to do it withing couple of hours. Take your time and make it well organized. For my tutorial I take three days(around 15 hours), and I failed few times. Change the format around 10times. Even I change the way of organizing it at the time of posting. But at the end I believe that I've done my best.
That's a very good point - tutorials aren't something that you can finish instantly, even if you know the subject really well they still take a fair amount of time to get right. For example, my Excel tutorial was several weeks work, spread over a few months, and included lots of moving/reformatting!
If you want somebody to check what you have done & make suggestions, I'm happy to do that. I can even change the wording of things to make them clearer if you want (I used to do it for NoteMe, and have done it for some FAQs).
If you want to do something "simpler", you could try writing an FAQ article, so that there is less ground to cover.
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Jul 12th, 2007, 09:00 AM
#24
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by si_the_geek
If you want somebody to check what you have done & make suggestions, I'm happy to do that.
I appreciate that pal. You know that, on my first tutorial, I wrote it give it to my father just to check is that required any modification. Then to my sister as well. And finally I put it here. For that whole process I took around two weeks.
I don't know how about it. No one put any feedback to me. But every day I check that how many people refer that. Nice to see that, close to 1000. I don't know everyone of them feel better with it. Anyway it encourage to write the next one.
“victory breeds hatred, the defeated live in pain; happily the peaceful live giving up victory and defeat” - Gautama Buddha
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Jul 12th, 2007, 09:10 AM
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
Unfortunately feedback is rare.. and most of what you get are corrections!
I've just a had a quick look at your tutorial, and I think it's good - there wasn't anything I thought should be changed. 
The fact that you have had so many views in a fairly short space of time is the best indicator you can get.. people are obviously finding it useful, and I presume people are linking to it too (if they are willing to recommend it, they must think it is good).
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Jul 12th, 2007, 09:16 AM
#26
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
Ya, I agreed with you sir.
“victory breeds hatred, the defeated live in pain; happily the peaceful live giving up victory and defeat” - Gautama Buddha
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Jul 13th, 2007, 04:39 PM
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
I think the tutorial looks very good.
I know very little about binary and hex and I think your posts will help me greatly. I just posted a little something (can't even call it a tutorial after seeing yours ) in the CodeBank and your's puts mine to shame! Well done.
Keep them coming.
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Jul 15th, 2007, 09:26 PM
#28
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
Thanks pal,
Actually it's not a tutorial which we seen normally. There is no specific questions to workout. Have to move with examples. Anyway I put another post there with few questions and there answers.
“victory breeds hatred, the defeated live in pain; happily the peaceful live giving up victory and defeat” - Gautama Buddha
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Jul 15th, 2007, 11:12 PM
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
does anyone have a tutorial for someone who is good at programming in general and understands databases and some sql, but has never used ado, crystal reports, or any other method of connecting VB to a database? I use vb.net now and i was able to create a database with relationships but i have no idea how to add data or read data in it, and i would just as soon link into an access database anyway, since the designer is superior.
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Jul 16th, 2007, 09:46 AM
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Re: N00b Tutorials...
Try looking in the Database forum - there is a sticky thread containing tutorials etc. 
(note that as you are using VB.Net, you should use ADO.Net rather than ADO)
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Jul 16th, 2007, 04:05 PM
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Jul 16th, 2007, 04:09 PM
#32
Re: N00b Tutorials...
 Originally Posted by nmadd
Ooops... I meant to link to that from the DB FAQ's... I'll do it now!
edit: Done, along with two of his other CodeBank entries!
Last edited by si_the_geek; Jul 16th, 2007 at 04:21 PM.
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