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    1) Solve the equation e^2x + 4e^(-2x) = 4

    Ans: x = 0.347


    2) Solve the equation:

    5^x = 2^(x+3)


    Ans: 2.27


    Could anyone help me with this 2 questions? Thanks a lot.
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    Re: Log

    e2x+4e-2x = 4
    Multiply all by e2x:
    e4x+ 4 = 4e2x

    Let y = e2x

    y2 - 4y + 4 = 0

    The solution is y = 2 => x = 0.5*ln(y) = 0.347...
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    Re: Log

    Quote Originally Posted by krtxmrtz
    e2x+4e-2x = 4
    Multiply all by e2x:
    e4x+ 4 = 4e2x

    Let y = e2x

    y2 - 4y + 4 = 0

    The solution is y = 2 => x = 0.5*ln(y) = 0.347...
    Hi krtxmrtz,

    Firstly, thanks for your help.

    Secondly, may I know why you need to multiply all by e2x ? Can't we just let y = e2x ?

    Also, if I multipy 4e^ (-2x) with e2x , why the answer is 4? Because there is a negative (-2x) in 4e^(-2x).

    I am confused about the above 2 points. Could you explain to me?

    Thanks thanks.

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    Re: Log

    You can let y = e2x if you like. But you will then get the equation:

    y + 4/y = 4

    which, to solve, you will need to multiply through by y. i.e. it is the same thing.

    When you multiply things with powers together, you must add the powers. Think of it this way, 23 x 2 = 23+1 = 24

    So e-2x x e2x = e0 = 1


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    Re: Log

    5x = 2(x+3) = 2x * 23 = 8*2x

    So you apply logarithms and get

    x log(5) = log(8) + x log(2)

    where log is the logarithm (base 10 or any other base)

    and I assume you know how to deal with the rest.
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    Re: Log

    Quote Originally Posted by zaza
    You can let y = e2x if you like. But you will then get the equation:

    y + 4/y = 4

    which, to solve, you will need to multiply through by y. i.e. it is the same thing.

    When you multiply things with powers together, you must add the powers. Think of it this way, 23 x 2 = 23+1 = 24

    So e-2x x e2x = e0 = 1


    zaza
    Now I understand. Thanks so much zaza.

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    Re: Log

    Quote Originally Posted by krtxmrtz
    5x = 2(x+3) = 2x * 23 = 8*2x

    So you apply logarithms and get

    x log(5) = log(8) + x log(2)

    where log is the logarithm (base 10 or any other base)

    and I assume you know how to deal with the rest.
    Hmm krtxmrtz, how do I get rid of the x in x log(2)? There are two (x)s in x log(2) & x log(5).

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    Re: Log

    Quote Originally Posted by Yunie
    Hmm krtxmrtz, how do I get rid of the x in x log(2)? There are two (x)s in x log(2) & x log(5).
    x log(5) = log(8) + x log(2)
    x log(5) - x log(2) = log(8)
    x [log(5) - log(2)] = log (8)

    x = log(8) / [log(5) - log(2)] = 2.269 (approx.)
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    Re: Log

    Quote Originally Posted by krtxmrtz
    x log(5) = log(8) + x log(2)
    x log(5) - x log(2) = log(8)
    x [log(5) - log(2)] = log (8)

    x = log(8) / [log(5) - log(2)] = 2.269 (approx.)
    Thanks so much krtxmrtx! You are a great help.

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