posting images

[learning c]

i upload images from my pc, what does everyone else do?

[I_Love_My_Vans]

attach them, host them on my server and link to them, or let the user guess each individual pixel.

ILMV

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[learning c]

so you download a picture from the web then upload it to a webserver then post a link to it?

[visualAd]

That's a breach of copyright.

[RobDog888]

Easy, if its your own picture, attach it for uploading to a thread or host on some other site and link in the thread.

If its not your own picture, depending on the pictures authors copyright laws and claims you may or may not be able to link to it in a thread.

[penagate]

Moved

[penagate]

That's a breach of copyright.

In terms of copyright, hotlinking an image is considered the same as copying it to your own server. You may only display or copy the image on a web page if you are granted permission to reproduce it under its licence or explicitly by the copyright holder. Otherwise, you should use a textual link.

[visualAd]

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I swear

[learning c]

wow a crash course in copyright; how do you find out if an image is copyright or not? watermark?

[penagate]

You ask whoever is hosting it.

[learning c]

isn't that time consuming to ask for every single pic? surely they should have the equivalent to the copyright symbol for pics.

[learning c]

you're right Penagate, found this link here:
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

which says:
"These days, almost all things are copyrighted the moment they are written, and no copyright notice is required."

i think i speak for most people in that i assumed that if it comes up in a google search without a copyright notice then it must be public domain, obviously copyright is not like that at all.

[RobDog888]

Nope, if its on the internet for viewing freely then its publically available for that purpose only. Now if you want to link an image from some site then you have to follow the sites copyright rules.

We can either check it ourselves or if the site or author finds out they will contact VBF and either request it be removed or to give notice of legal action(s). VBF is not responsible for its content posted by members. The member posting the content is solely responsible. This is also in our AUP.

[brad jones]

isn't that time consuming to ask for every single pic?

Yes, it can be

Brad!

[learning c]

IT and virtual reality is too fast to be limited by the current approach, what they should do it:

1. have everything public domain if no © on intellectual property
2. have a cheap international register so that people can't just erase the © and get away with it

then everything would be optimised, see zimple and fast =)

do i have to fix everything that's wrong with society :sigh:

[RobDog888]

There is no need for placing a © copyright symbol on anything that is your original work. Once its created/published by you, your essentially copyrighting it. In the USA its this way but globally it will always be an issue but usually you originating country's copyright laws will prevail. Complicated and complex, yes, but it is protected. Anyone erases the © and when found out they can be subjected to lawsuit(s) etc. Its just allot easier to be legit.

[learning c]

interesting view RobDog888, the problem for me and everyone else is that even the guy who wrote that article indicates that it can be time consuming providing written permission and dealing with too much correspondence about copyright, so it hampers both the copyrighter and the copyrightee. i guess technically everytime we quote someone else on the formum we should really ask for their permission, unless i misunderstood the impact and operation of the law at the moment.

which is why there is too much complexity wasting time and money for both copyrigher and copyrightee (neologisms?), i litterally have to include a note releasing it to the public domain rather than just include the ©, and such letters and permissions can be forged too, which is why a central register clears it all out and makes it easy and fast for everyone.

i completely agree with the concept of everyone owning their own creations, however, at the moment the system seems to be a very inefficient vehicle.

[brad jones]

1. have everything public domain if no © on intellectual property

Analogy...

The doors on the bank weren't locked, so I should be able to just take the money....

I guess technically everytime we quote someone else on the formum we should really ask for their permission,

There are two things that address this. One is fair use, and the other is the fact that the owners have license to the content posted on this site based on the site's usage policy. Since the owners of this site are okay with you quoting without reference, no copyright is violated -- although the owners prefer proper attribution when possible.


Extending the Copyright lessons....
Besides... It isn't the copyright itself that is important, but rather owning the copyright. Just ask most book authors. They can copyright a book in their name, but most publishers take control of the copyright....

Brad!

[learning c]

Analogy...

The doors on the bank weren't locked, so I should be able to just take the money....

nah, most people prefer to release the majority of their communications to the public domain, but they usually have some areas that they would prefer to remain their own.

There are two things that address this. One is fair use, and the other is the fact that the owners have license to the content posted on this site based on the site's usage policy. Since the owners of this site are okay with you quoting without reference, no copyright is violated -- although the owners prefer proper attribution when possible.

true, i guess this site is a forum equivalent to teh freeware.

Extending the Copyright lessons....
Besides... It isn't the copyright itself that is important, but rather owning the copyright. Just ask most book authors. They can copyright a book in their name, but most publishers take control of the copyright....

Brad!

what happens if a newspaper publishes a libelous article, can the person aggrieved sue the publisher?

[RobDog888]

I think this thread has turned from its original question. To post images on VBF or anywhere else you only need to check the sites terms of use and/or copyright notice.

[nemaroller]

And that Yoda picture in your avatar is yours right? lol..,

[RobDog888]

Yes it is. Took me a while with PhotoShop.

[visualAd]

But where is your letter of permission from Lucasfilm to use the original image of Yoda?

[penagate]

Small images like avatars can be considered fair use.