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Mar 21st, 2007, 06:59 AM
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[RESOLVED] modelling problem
hi
im stuck on an additional homework problem, any ideas on how to solve appreciated
A sphere of ice i melting so its volume decreases whilst it maintains the same shape (but not size).
(a) Use volume balancing to derive differential equations describing the rate of change of the radius of the sphere , r, if it is melting:
i) with a constant rate of volume loss;
ii) at a rate of volume loss proportional to the surface area of the sphere;
iii) at a rate of volume loss proportional to the volume itself.
-constants of proportionality are k1, k2, and k3
-solve each of the equations to find an expression for r as a function of time t, assuming that the initial radius of the sphere is ro.
-ro = 2x10^-3, k1= 10^-6 m^3 s^-1
k2 and k3 should be chosen to make the initial rate of melting the same in all 3 cases.
thanks,
Donna
Last edited by hani1987; Mar 26th, 2007 at 06:02 PM.
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Mar 22nd, 2007, 12:24 PM
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Re: modelling problem
 Originally Posted by hani1987
hi
im stuck on an additional homework problem, any ideas on how to solve appreciated
A sphere of ice i melting so its volume decreases whilst it maintains the same shape (but not size).
(a) Use volume balancing to derive differential equations describing the rate of change of the radius of the sphere , r, if it is melting:
i) with a constant rate of volume loss;
ii) at a rate of volume loss proportional to the surface area of the sphere;
iii) at a rate of volume loss proportional to the volume itself.
-constants of proportionality are k1, k2, and k3
-solve each of the equations to find an expression for r as a function of time t, assuming that the initial radius of the sphere is ro.
-ro = 2x10^-3, k1= 10^-6 m^3 s^-1
k2 and k3 should be chosen to make the initial rate of melting the same in all 3 cases.
thanks,
Donna
Hi, welcome to the forums.
The volume is V = 4*Pi*r3/3 so the rate of change is:
dV/dt = d(4*Pi*r3/3)/dt = 4*Pi*r2dr/dt
This is our basic equation and I'll call it (E0).
Part (a) Constant rate of volume loss. This means dV/dt = constant, i.e. dV/dt = -k1
where I have assumed k1 is positive, so I use a negative sign as the volume decreases, i.e. the rate is negative.
From (E0):
4*Pi*r2dr/dt = -k1 or 4*Pi*r2dr = -k1dt
Integrating this you get,
4*Pi*r3/3 = -k1 + C
where C is the integration constant to be determined. If the initial radius of the sphere (when t=0) is r0 then substituting you get C = 4*Pi*r03/3
Putting C into the equation and rearranging you finally obtain:
r = [r03 - 3k1t/(4*Pi)]1/3
Parts (b) and (c) are similar, all you have to do is write the adequate expressions for dV/dt, i.e.
(b) dV/dt = -k2*4*Pi*r2
and
(c) dV/dt = -k3*V = -4*k3*Pi*r3/3
and substitute in (E0).
Last edited by krtxmrtz; Mar 23rd, 2007 at 01:37 AM.
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Mar 22nd, 2007, 12:52 PM
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Mar 22nd, 2007, 01:07 PM
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Re: modelling problem
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thanks!
You're welcome. Post back if you need any more help.
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Mar 22nd, 2007, 01:34 PM
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Re: modelling problem
Hey thanks for helping out, there is only one more thing i need to know before its all solved:
for part c, my final equation is ln r = -1/3k3t + C
so to find c you put t= 0, which gives ln r0 = c?
and taking exponentials, gives r = e^(-1/3k3t) + r0?
should i work out the constant before or after integrating?
thanks!
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Mar 23rd, 2007, 01:43 AM
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Re: modelling problem
Your final equation should be
dr/r = -k3dt/3 and after integrating,
ln(r) = -k3t/3 + C
C = ln(r0) and all you have to do is substitute and operate:
ln(r) = -k3t/3 + ln(r0)
ln(r) - ln(r0) = -k3t/3
ln(r/r0) = -k3t/3
r/r0 = e-k3t/3
r = r0e-k3t/3
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