Both of you are taking this out of porportion. MartinLiss began helping me and then suggested that I read a book. That's fine, but maybe I needed a little help now so I wouldn't have to run out and buy a book just yet. Then MartinLiss proceeded to tell me to re-invent the wheel, that's not helping, go figure. Further, JHausmann, why is this your business anyway? If you'll read all my prior posts, I'm always friendly and thankful for any help I get, so why has this particular post turned sour w/o pointing the finger at me?