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Feb 26th, 2007, 09:03 AM
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Implicit differentiation
Question is: Find dy/dx in both cases:
a) e^xy = 5
b) sin2xcosy = 3
Please help!
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Feb 26th, 2007, 12:48 PM
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Re: Implicit differentiation
In the first case, if you define:
f(x,y) = exy then, f = 5 and df = 0 (df is the differential). Using the symbol dp meaning 'partial derivative' then:
df = (dp/dx) dx + (dp/dy) dy
from which,
dy/dx = -(dp/dx) / (dp/dy) = -yexy/xexy = -y/x
In the second case you do just the same thing:
f = sin2xcosy
dy/dx = -(dp/dx) / (dp/dy) = -(2cos2xcosy) / (-sin2xsiny) = 2 / (tan2xtany)
By the way, the latter function can't be right or, rather, has no complying point (x,y) for both the sine and cosine vary from -1 to 1 so a product of a sine and a cosine can't be equal to 3.
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Feb 26th, 2007, 02:48 PM
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Re: Implicit differentiation
That seems to make confusing sense. So are you saying dy/dx of e^xy =- y/x?
The sin and cos one makes sense.
Thank you for your help by the way.
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Feb 26th, 2007, 03:47 PM
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Re: Implicit differentiation
 Originally Posted by Cadbury
That seems to make confusing sense. So are you saying dy/dx of e^xy =- y/x?
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That's right.
From exy = 5 you get:
xy = ln(5)
y = ln(5) / x
and dy/dx = -ln(5) / x2
i.e. dy/dx = -y/x
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Feb 27th, 2007, 03:41 AM
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Re: Implicit differentiation
 Originally Posted by Cadbury
Question is: Find dy/dx in both cases:
a) e^xy = 5
b) sin2xcosy = 3
Please help!
a)
Make t = xy then dt/dx = y + x dy/dx
And et differentiates to et
Then d/dx(exy) = et(y + x dy/dx) = exy(y + x dy/dx)
5 differentiates to 0 so we get:
exy(y + x dy/dx) = 0
y + x dy/dx = 0
x dy/dx = -y
dy/dx = -y/x
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Feb 27th, 2007, 03:45 AM
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Re: Implicit differentiation
 Originally Posted by Cadbury
Question is: Find dy/dx in both cases:
a) e^xy = 5
b) sin2xcosy = 3
Please help!
b)
By product rule
d/dx(sin 2x cos y) = 2 cos 2x cos y - sin 2x sin y dy/dx
3 differentiates to zero so
2 cos 2x cos y - sin 2x sin y dy/dx = 0
sin 2x sin y dy/dx = 2 cos 2x cos y
dy/dx = (2 cos 2x cos y)/(sin 2x sin y) = 2 cot 2x cot y
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