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  1. Feb 24th, 2007, 03:08 PM #1
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    Re: Is NSBASIC trying to keep VB6 alive?

    NSBasic runs on hand helds
    and http://realbasic.com/ runs on three platforms
    Always nice to have options
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    Re: Is NSBASIC trying to keep VB6 alive?

    But isn't it really the frame-work not being used by VB6 that will be it's downfall in the long run?

    With MS not supporting the continued use of API calls and such - won't new hardware and drivers simply stop interacting with them?

    I'm really just wondering - as we write very simple app's - UI's for DB maintenance and such.

    If NSBASIC isn't going to use the frame-work then how can it survive anyway?

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    Re: Is NSBASIC trying to keep VB6 alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by szlamany
    But isn't it really the frame-work not being used by VB6 that will be it's downfall in the long run?

    With MS not supporting the continued use of API calls and such - won't new hardware and drivers simply stop interacting with them?

    I'm really just wondering - as we write very simple app's - UI's for DB maintenance and such.

    If NSBASIC isn't going to use the frame-work then how can it survive anyway?
    Your concerns are exactly the ones I have. That's what keeps me from switching to REALbasic or Delphi. What if MS breaks compatibility with WinAPI32?

    Do the software houses that produce non-.NET development tools know that they might have their days numbered?
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    Re: Is NSBASIC trying to keep VB6 alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by esposito
    What if MS breaks compatibility with WinAPI32?

    Do the software houses that produce non-.NET development tools know that they might have their days numbered?
    Won't they have to as 64 bit machines become the norm?

    We are a software house that produces non-.Net applications - and we have to migrate - the customers are starting to notice the different look that new app's have - and we are forced to stay current.

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    Re: Is NSBASIC trying to keep VB6 alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by szlamany
    Won't they have to as 64 bit machines become the norm?

    We are a software house that produces non-.Net applications - and we have to migrate - the customers are starting to notice the different look that new app's have - and we are forced to stay current.
    What do you mean by "the different look that new app's have"? What is the look that can only be created with .NET and not with VB6?
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    Re: Is NSBASIC trying to keep VB6 alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by szlamany
    ...With MS not supporting the continued use of API calls and such - won't new hardware and drivers simply stop interacting with them?
    I think it's a mistake. One of the tools we use in house for reporting purposes is called SQR - it's cumbersome but it does job quite well and it's going to stay for awhile because it's part a major enterprise...
    Anyway, I recently had to use it outside ERP system just because .Net is so lousy when it comes to printing simple reports (I really am missing that old good Printer object ).
    Long story short some command line agrs need to be p-assed to sqr executable and some of them are folders and files names.
    Because long path may contain spaces and arguments list will all be messed up I was forced to convert long path to short. The only way to accomplish this is to use the com interop to get to Win32 APIs.
    Now you tell me why the heck framework doesn't naturaly support that?
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    Re: Is NSBASIC trying to keep VB6 alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by RhinoBull
    I was forced to convert long path to short. The only way to accomplish this is to use the com interop to get to Win32 APIs.
    Now you tell me why the heck framework doesn't naturaly support that?
    The only and one reason I can see to switch to .NET is to get ready for the future, so there's no need to be in a hurry. Right now it does not make any sense to abandon VB6, also because Vista supports it quite well. Since this OS has just been released, it is legitimate to assume that for the next four/five years VB6 applications will work just fine.
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    Re: Is NSBASIC trying to keep VB6 alive?

    I wasn't talking about VB6 being alive - that was all about .net 2.0 framework that has 400K+ classes and not at least one that supports api.
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    Re: Is NSBASIC trying to keep VB6 alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by RhinoBull
    I wasn't talking about VB6 being alive - that was all about .net 2.0 framework that has 400K+ classes and not at least one that supports api.
    Yes, 400K+ classes cannot convert a long path into a short one. VB6 is still alive also for that.
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    Re: Is NSBASIC trying to keep VB6 alive?

    I'm afraid you aren't listening - at this moment I do not care whether or not VB6 is capable of doing something - my point of view is purely related to .Net framework and only framework.
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    Re: Is NSBASIC trying to keep VB6 alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by sessi4ml
    NSBasic runs on hand helds
    and http://realbasic.com/ runs on three platforms
    Always nice to have options
    The question is, for how long will it be able to run on three platforms?
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