RIP Saddam Hussein

[mendhak]

No, he's not dead yet. But the farce trial is over, the appeal has been rejected, it's only a matter of time... but it is of some comfort that he did not go the way of Milosevic by dying before he was to be executed. Ironic, pointless, redundant, but we're all emotional, aren't we?

Thoughts.

[Saddam Hussain]

Thoughts.

This sucks!

[George W Bush]

It is the will of the American people. Let this serve as a message to terrorists everywhere that nations holding WMDs will not be spared. The American people have spoken as one voice.

[Andrew G]

Oh well, where one falls, another hundred shall rise

[Mohammed al Sahaf]

Saddam Hussein remains the true president of Iraq. The zionist devils will be defeated.

[tommygrayson]

Saddam is so used to dying.

He will reincarnate after 100 years to wage war against Bush's grandson.

And the vicious cycle goes on.

[litlewiki]

He should have been killed the day he was caught.

[capsulecorpjx]

No, he's not dead yet. But the farce trial is over, the appeal has been rejected, it's only a matter of time... but it is of some comfort that he did not go the way of Milosevic by dying before he was to be executed. Ironic, pointless, redundant, but we're all emotional, aren't we?

Thoughts.

Too bad he looks like a kindly old uncle makes me feel sorry for him.

[RobDog888]

Iraq now has possesion of him and he will be hung within 24 hours are the current reports.

[mendhak]

Iraq now has possesion of him and he will be hung within 24 hours are the current reports.

I didn't believe you at first...
http://www.24dash.com/centralgovernment/14759.htm

[NotLKH]

Will Dick Clark host this Event?

[NotLKH]

Hmmm, perhaps he'll make it to next year after all:

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchas...s-atlantic.php

[RobDog888]

Hmm, I herd it on the news that he was in Iraqui custody and that his lawyers filed that appeal, but quoting the article in your link...

"prevent the transfer of the Applicant into the hands of an authority that has indicated it will execute him after what has been deemed by a number of third party organizations an unfair trial."

I highly doubt that anyone will declare that he got an unfair trial. If its true that he is in Irauqi custody then it may be too late for the appeal?

[RobDog888]

I didn't believe you at first...
http://www.24dash.com/centralgovernment/14759.htm

Commandment #8:

Thou shall never doubt RobDog888!

[NotLKH]

Saddam Hussein could be hanged within hours, a senior Iraqi source told Reuters after Saddam's lawyer said US forces had handed over the former president to Iraqi authorities for execution.

US officials, however, insisted that the 69-year-old ousted dictator was still in American hands.

http://milton.yourguide.com.au/detai...tegory=general

I've seen similar statements over the past half hour, so Its debate-able as to where he really is ATM.

[RobDog888]

Well they also said they were afraid of the backlash that probably will occur when they hang him so it could be a ploy to keep everyone guessing until they are finished.

[mendhak]

True. There's also a law there that is supposed to bar executions from happening on a religious festival (which it will be when he is executed (depends on who you are in Iraq too, har har)).

Reports now say that he will be executed by 6AM BST/10 PM EST. Just a few hours remaining.

What do you think is going through his head right now? Is he thinking about the people he killed or the families of those people he killed who will be celebrating? Does he still deem himself to be a victim? Is he cursing his enemies one last time? Is he going to face it with dignity, or go down yelling?

That's what I'm pondering...

[mendhak]

Ha ha... talk about a mismanaged judicial system

A trial in a second case, alleging genocide against Kurds, continues against him.

He'll be back, folks... FROM THE GRAVE!!!

[mendhak]

And... he's dead. The 'dam has broken. Hussein has left the building. Kicked the proverbial milk bucket.

[rory]

[shakti5385]

War does not determine that who is best, War determines that who is left

[penagate]

*rubs hands*
Eeeexcellent.

[/Burns]

[RobDog888]

See it was True! They were just trying to confuse everyone as to keep any uprising or attacks to a minimum.

Dont let the door hit you on your way out Sadam!

[kregg]

I don't think he was a nice person, but he was killed for a stupid reason. George have been sending troops to rid Saddam of the Weapons of Mass Destruction, capture him, and kill him for torturing his Iraqi people etc...

What about the weapons of mass destruction? What happens if a little boy picks them up :O

[bushmobile]

I don't think he was a nice person, but he was killed for a stupid reason.

he was executed for his part in the killing of 148 Shia Muslims (plus there were two or three other trials due to start for the likely outcome would have been execution) - would you care to qualify 'stupid'?

[System_Error]

I don't think he was a nice person, but he was killed for a stupid reason.

and it was his own fault. All he had to do was comply with the UN on the stupid WMD issue and none of this would have happend.

he was executed for his part in the killing of 148 Shia Muslims (plus there were two or three other trials due to start for the likely outcome would have been execution) - would you care to qualify 'stupid'?

I'm wondering the same.

[mendhak]

he was executed for his part in the killing of 148 Shia Muslims (plus there were two or three other trials due to start for the likely outcome would have been execution) - would you care to qualify 'stupid'?

Something called 'pretext'.

[rory]

do the crime, do the time ...

[bushmobile]

Something called 'pretext'.

the pretext for the invasion of Iraq was dubious at best (if that's what you were referring to), but Saddam Hussain was not on trial for being invaded.

Despite the debacle of the last few years, Saddam was tried in the an Iraqi court, found guilty, and sentence in accordance with Iraqi law - he wasn't killed for a stupid reason, however 'stupid' the war might have been in the first place.

[crptcblade]

and it was his own fault. All he had to do was comply with the UN on the stupid WMD issue and none of this would have happend.

He was dead either way. If he had complied, I'm more than fairly certain that Iran would have seen an oppurtunity to march in and give him a swift kick in the ass.

[mendhak]

Saddam was tried in the an Iraqi court, found guilty, and sentence in accordance with Iraqi law

LOL.

- he wasn't killed for a stupid reason, however 'stupid' the war might have been in the first place.

We may have mixed things up, but yeah, I was referring to the reason for the invasion, which in turn, someone else was referring to when he said stupid.

[rory]

the pretext for the invasion of Iraq was dubious at best

just finishing off what should have been done back in 92 ..

[mendhak]

just finishing off what should have been done back in 92 ..

I was in Syria at the time. We had black snow that winter.

[rory]

I was in Syria at the time. We had black snow that winter.

should have put out some big containers ...

[mendhak]

We tried making a snowman in school, but our teacher stopped us. Something about 'racism' which I was too young to understand at the time.

[System_Error]

He was dead either way. If he had complied, I'm more than fairly certain that Iran would have seen an oppurtunity to march in and give him a swift kick in the ass.

What a shame. That would have been far more entertaining. Plus Bush could be looking stupid on other issues more entertaining than Iraq.

We tried making a snowman in school, but our teacher stopped us. Something about 'racism' which I was too young to understand at the time.

[kregg]

he was executed for his part in the killing of 148 Shia Muslims (plus there were two or three other trials due to start for the likely outcome would have been execution) - would you care to qualify 'stupid'?

All I saw on the TV at that time was one minute George and Tony saying something like Saddam having weapons of mass destruction and how we were all going to die. Afterwards then American and British troops went in and messed up Iraq. They both got what they wanted (oil), and found saddam hussein, and then it's like "You've tortured many of your own people..."

He did before but nobody did anything. Why now?


And say hello to my purple elephant folks

[mendhak]

Saddam's final moments
http://www.cnn.com/video/player/play...execution.affl

Cellphone video of Saddam's body
http://www.cnn.com/video/player/play...dead.body.reut

[Shaggy Hiker]

just finishing off what should have been done back in 92 ..

Oh, we're better off now?

Ok, I'll bite, how are we better off? How was this execution of the war superior to what happened in 92?

Which brings me back to the question I've been asking all along: What is an attainable outcome to the current situation that could be considered a victory for the US? What will it look like? How will we know that it has been achieved?

Frankly, I have read a few attempts to come up with an answer to that question, and they all rely on "then suddenly a miracle happens." I am beginning to believe that no plausible, attainable, outcome to the current situation will be better than the situation pre-invasion. If that is the case, then the US has lost, and it's just a question of how long we drag it out before admitting it.

That sounds like "cut and run", and it is. Despite being a slogan, the "cut" part is short for "cut your losses", and is the only rational answer when the ONLY alternative is to take bigger losses with no possible gain.

I never thought we should have gotten into Iraq, but now that we are there, I think we should not leave until we have attained the best result that is attainable. Right now, I'm leaning towards leaving now, because, though it will be a disaster, there is no alternative that is likely to produce a better result.

As for Saddam, I find it odd that as of this morning, the media couldn't and wouldn't say that his death was confirmed. All I heard was that "a body was shown which was reported to be that of Saddam..." That's an awful lot of hedging. Are we not sure?

[System_Error]

Oh, we're better off now?

Ok, I'll bite, how are we better off? How was this execution of the war superior to what happened in 92?

Which brings me back to the question I've been asking all along: What is an attainable outcome to the current situation that could be considered a victory for the US? What will it look like? How will we know that it has been achieved?

Frankly, I have read a few attempts to come up with an answer to that question, and they all rely on "then suddenly a miracle happens." I am beginning to believe that no plausible, attainable, outcome to the current situation will be better than the situation pre-invasion. If that is the case, then the US has lost, and it's just a question of how long we drag it out before admitting it.

That sounds like "cut and run", and it is. Despite being a slogan, the "cut" part is short for "cut your losses", and is the only rational answer when the ONLY alternative is to take bigger losses with no possible gain.

I never thought we should have gotten into Iraq, but now that we are there, I think we should not leave until we have attained the best result that is attainable. Right now, I'm leaning towards leaving now, because, though it will be a disaster, there is no alternative that is likely to produce a better result.

As for Saddam, I find it odd that as of this morning, the media couldn't and wouldn't say that his death was confirmed. All I heard was that "a body was shown which was reported to be that of Saddam..." That's an awful lot of hedging. Are we not sure?

Sometimes I look at the long term possibilities and think 'it can be done', but then I remember where Iraq is located. The middle east is fighting and will always be fighting. Not to mention half the people we are trying to 'help' are against us (some for good reason, as Saddam provided more security) Nothing we can do. There's more troops guarding the borders of Iraq and South Korea than our own. I'm sick of the US fighting other peoples fights. We have more than enough problems on native soil. One of them is getting rid of this lame duck we call president

So what will joerge butch be remembered for?