Overclocking, CPU Temperature

[CVMichael]

This is weird:

With no overclocking CPU temperature averages around 48C
Overcloking it to 10%, makes the temperature 42C

What's going on ?
Isn't overclocking supposed to make it more hot ?

PS, the CPU is 3.2 GHz dual core

[thegreatone]

Yep, that's weird, and would indicate that the readings you are getting aren't correct.

Either that, or the fan is actually speed controlled by the frequency or voltage the processor is using. Which would make it spin faster. That woukd show a decrease in tempratures.

What cooling are you using btw?

[RobDog888]

Most of the newer CPUs use the variable cooling technology where its as tgo stated. Fan speeds are increased as CPU needs increase.

[thegreatone]

Most of the newer CPUs use the variable cooling technology where its as tgo stated. Fan speeds are increased as CPU needs increase.

Apart form mine permanently set at 12v's... CPU temps idle at 30'C for me Thats a dual core at 3ghz now.

[CVMichael]

The fan speed does not seem to change...

[Chel]

What are you using to read your temps? It sounds like a error. BTW what proc do you have?

[CVMichael]

I've done a VERY stupid thing...

I thought that if I update the BIOS, it will read the propper values for temperature.

My old BIOS version was something like 1102 and I updated it to 1207

I restarted the computer, and now I cannot boot it anymore !!!

I'm using my gf computer to write this message.

Is there anything I can do to bring my old BIOS back ?

[RobDog888]

If you rebooted before it was done flashing the chip then I really dont think so. You may need to go to the mobo's website or look in your instruction manual for this issue. Some boards have Dual Bios for this particular situation. Its a secondary backup chip with the original or previous bios version.

If not then you may have to get your chip reflashed at a computer store. Cost somewhere around ~$25 I believe.

[thegreatone]

If you rebooted before it was done flashing the chip then I really dont think so. You may need to go to the mobo's website or look in your instruction manual for this issue. Some boards have Dual Bios for this particular situation. Its a secondary backup chip with the original or previous bios version.

If not then you may have to get your chip reflashed at a computer store. Cost somewhere around ~$25 I believe.

You're right there Rob, unless he has a motherboard where the chip can be removed, and then put into a different motherboard of the same model whilst in windows and re-flashing the BIOS chip from there. However, it's probably more likely you'll need to ask the manufacturer...

Let's hope it has Dual BIOS, mine does, but i don't know how to use it!

[litlewiki]

Most mobos also come with softwares that can find new updates and check compatiblity.

[CVMichael]

The software that searches for updates does nothing, I press the button to search for update, and I wait for hours, and nothing !!

So i did a search myself, I went to ASUS website, and looked for my MB, downloaded the update, and use the software to flash the BIOS and I updated it....

When I restarted the computer, it would give an error when it tries to boot, invalid boot drive (or something like that), I was able to go into BIOS, and it did show the propper hard-drives, and the boot order was correct, but it just did not boot.

I looked in my MB instruction book, and it said that if you press ALT+F2 when comp starts, it will load the original BIOS from CD, and I did that...
It started to flash, it sais Successful, but when I restarted the computer, nothing... it did not even go into BIOS, absolutly nothing on the screen, black screen, and it would keep trying to read the CD-ROM, if i would press on the button to open the CD-ROM door, it would open like an inch, and then it would go back in... I was not even able to take out the CD it was in already.

I could not do anything...

I took the computer to where I bought it, and they said there is nothing they can do, because I messed with the BIOS, it is not in warranty anymore.

So my only choice was to buy a new motherboard !

It cost me $129 + 14% Tax = $147

Tomorow I'm gonna get the computer back...

So... lesson for anyone who plans to flash the BIOS... DON'T DO IT !!!!

[RobDog888]

No, just dont reboot until after the chip is done being flashed.

Also, check to see what are the fixes and if the new version of the bios is justified for you to flash it then do it else just wait for another release.

Also also, backup your old version to file to you can revert back.

[CVMichael]

[color=navy]No, just dont reboot until after the chip is done being flashed.

I did not.... I waited until it said flashed successful...

Also, check to see what are the fixes and if the new version of the bios is justified for you to flash it then do it else just wait for another release.

Also also, backup your old version to file to you can revert back.

The screen was black... it would not respond to anything... no text on the screen watsoever, black from the momenet you start the comptuer...
How can I revert back then ?
And by the way... my computer did not come with a diskette drive.... that's why i used the CD the motherboard came with...
And even for that it said "Flash... Successfull...", and when I restarted... nothing...

[RobDog888]

I meant before you flash otherwise there is no previous version to back up.

If you have a spare floppy drive you can add one as Asus mobos still have the floppy drive controller on board.

[CVMichael]

Either way it is too late

I'll never mess with Flashing BIOS ever again !

I learned my lesson

[RobDog888]

No, its not that lesson. You should just back up the bios to file before flashing but yes, that wont help if you experience a siutuation like you did.

Just was thinking that since you have an Asus mobo you could call tech support and they may be able to send you a new bios chip since it was probably some error in either the new bios version or the chip. Cost may be free type thing too.

[CVMichael]

...they may be able to send you a new bios chip...

And you think I would be able to replace the chip myself ?

[si_the_geek]

For some mobo's you can - they have a chip holder soldered onto the board so that the chip itself can be changed easily.

[RobDog888]

Right Si, they pop out of the recepticle. I believe your asus mobo should have this as I have it on a really old mobo from asus (PII).

[CVMichael]

I got my computer back (with the new motherboard installed).

Everything works fine, the BIOS version is 1103 (the other one was 1102), but... still a long way to the latest BIOS version which is 1407 (beta version).

Anyways... I'm afraid to mess with it now.

I got the old motherboard back also, I'm planning to sell it on E-Bay, what do you guys think ?

I know the BIOS is garbage, probably have to change the chip, do you think anyone would buy it ? and for how much would they buy it ?

[RobDog888]

I guess you could try to sell it but with shipping and all it probably wouldnt be that much of a savings for someone. so they may not bother especially with the bios being wack. You need to let them know about the bios too as you wouldnt want to get a -ve on your seller rating and have to refund the money. Could be costly.

Oh ya, dont ever use a beta bios version

[CVMichael]

Since now I have 2 motherboars, one that works, and another that does not...

I'm going to attempt to "hot flash" the BIOS on the bad one...

I've been reading articles on the net, and i'm getting more and more confident that I can do it.

If I can flash it successfully to the original BIOS, then I will also attempt to flash to the Beta version I was talking about earlier... just to see how it is...

Since I have 2 motherboards, I think I can afford to play around with one of them...

As long as I have one BIOS that works, everything will be OK, right ?

By the way... flashing to the beta version, does not damage the hardware part, right ? it's just software that will be bad ?

[CVMichael]

By the way.... there is no risk of damaging the current one (working one), right ?

[RobDog888]

Correct, its like running beta software on your system. Possible code bugs and issues could arise from it as would be expected from a beta version.

[si_the_geek]

It is possibile that a Beta version will do physical damage to the board - but it is highly unlikely.

As the board is a spare, you might as well give it a go.

[CVMichael]

I did it, and it WORKED !!!!

Right now, I'm using the old chip from the motherboard that supposedly "there is nothing you can do about it" (That's what the people from where I bought the computer said)

I did not put the beta version yet, I just wanted to make it work for now, I put version 1207 for now (compared with original one 1102), and it works with no problems.

But I found out what was the problem with the old BIOS.

When I "recovered" from the ASUS CD the first time I messed it up, it put version 060# (I don't remember what # was, 0602 maybe...)

So, no wonder it did not even start the computer, the BIOS version was way too old !

I found this while I was in the process of "hot flashing" the chip, I checked the version on the chip, before I flashed it.

How can they put such an old version on the recovery CD ? that's just so stupid !

Arggg, I had to pay $147 to fix something that was not even my fault !

Any ideas what should I do with the spare motherboard (that is working now) ?

[RobDog888]

Sell it to try to recover some of your expenses.