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  1. Aug 27th, 2006, 04:44 AM #1
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    Future of VB

    Hi friends....
    I am a person with alittle or no background in programming. I am a person love visiting somany forums and blogs including legal and illegal. These visits made me to think about studying a programming language. The only programming language so far i know is C, which is outdated in a sense that its producing console apps. So i decided to start studying a new programming language other than C & C++.

    Since i am lazy i decided to start VB. Buter later i realised that many people doesn't like VB other than easy of constructing apps. Because many people complaints that the VB producing junk codes which is almost haunting to debug and program created with VB takes more time to load than others made in C++ or C. So i am now in a situation whether to continue my study and i started learning others such as VC++ or VC++.Net.

    You people are experienced in various programming languages. Whats your view about it to what should i choose. Will the future of VB bright. ?

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  2. Aug 27th, 2006, 04:54 AM #2
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    Re: Future of VB

    In my humble opinion VB and C#.Net and VB.Net are quite similar.
    I started out creating in C#.NET and found that my programms didn't work at the computers at work because the .NET framework wasn't installed.
    So i asked a collegue of mine and he said that VB6 did work.
    So i rebuilt my programm in VB6 and it looks and feels a lot like Visual Studio C#.NET Express edition.


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    Re: Future of VB

    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalClear
    Hi friends....
    I am a person with alittle or no background in programming. I am a person love visiting somany forums and blogs including legal and illegal.
    Illegal??

    Since i am lazy i decided to start VB. Buter later i realised that many people doesn't like VB other than easy of constructing apps. Because many people complaints that the VB producing junk codes which is almost haunting to debug and program created with VB takes more time to load than others made in C++ or C.
    Wrong... why are you lazy for learning vb? Vb isnt as strict as c++/c etc but non the less its powerfull, you dont allways need fast calculations in application. so why use c++?

    o i am now in a situation whether to continue my study and i started learning others such as VC++ or VC++.Net.
    VB.Net ???

    You people are experienced in various programming languages. Whats your view about it to what should i choose. Will the future of VB bright. ?
    Vb6 is dead. Vb.net is the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghan
    In my humble opinion VB and C#.Net and VB.Net are quite similar.
    ????? Have you looked at them???

    I started out creating in C#.NET and found that my programms didn't work at the computers at work because the .NET framework wasn't installed.
    true, so get it installed all modern computers should have it.

    So i rebuilt my programm in VB6 and it looks and feels a lot like Visual Studio C#.NET Express edition.
    i cant believe you said that.....


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  4. Aug 27th, 2006, 07:20 AM #4
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    Re: Future of VB

    Why every1 says VB6 is dead?-
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  6. Aug 27th, 2006, 07:24 AM #5
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    Re: Future of VB

    not dead, just 3 versions old....
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  7. Aug 27th, 2006, 09:39 AM #6
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    Re: Future of VB

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    Why every1 says VB6 is dead?-
    Probably because MS dropped the main stream support fo VB6 and in two years or so it will not be supported at all just like VB1,2,3,4 and 5...
    But there are tons of businesses that yet to consider anything but Visual Studio 6 as their development platform (but sooner or later they will have to ... so better now I guess but it's cost effective.).
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  8. Aug 27th, 2006, 09:45 AM #7
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    Re: Future of VB

    ..it will be no longer supported (at all) after Windows Vista, and I'm pretty sure I saw an official message saying "No more service packs will be released for VB6".

    It will also not ever be 64-bit compatible (as VB.Net is already), but is likely to work on 64-bit processors/OS's (as 16-bit apps work on 32-bit processors/OS's).
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    So you are actually saying VB6 'is going dead' when Microsoft goes release a next version of windows? Not vista but another afterwards?

    And how about VB.Net?
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    Re: Future of VB

    That's right.. if VB6 apps work properly post-Vista, we'll be lucky.

    VB.Net is current, and will be supported for several years (the next edition of the .Net framework is being released at the same time as the OS, and will be included).
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    Re: Future of VB

    Quote Originally Posted by si_the_geek
    It will also not ever be 64-bit compatible (as VB.Net is already), but is likely to work on 64-bit processors/OS's (as 16-bit apps work on 32-bit processors/OS's).
    Both the IDE and the apps work on 64 bit.
    The most difficult part of developing a program is understanding the problem.
    The second most difficult part is deciding how you're going to solve the problem.
    Actually writing the program (translating your solution into some computer language) is the easiest part.
    Please indent your code and use [HIGHLIGHT="VB"] [/HIGHLIGHT] tags around it to make it easier to read.
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    Re: Future of VB

    And .net 1.1 is almost obsolete already. So its the same as vb6.
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    Re: Future of VB

    Quote Originally Posted by Al42
    Both the IDE and the apps work on 64 bit.
    Yes, but not in 64-bit mode, only in WOW64/hardware emulation mode. Although I suspect you realise that.

    C isn't outdated. In fact, I believe the C standard (C99) is newer than C++. Console apps aren't outdated either. The console is easily as powerful, if not a more powerful, medium as the GUI, the only advantages a GUI has are ease of use and simple multi-tasking.

    Rhino sums it up well, VB6 is considered dead because official support is ceased and the product line is no longer continued, however many businesses still use in it to avoid the pain (cost and development wise) of porting to another language, or because of a lack of demand for an upgraded solution (Hack ).

    .NET is a good tool for modern development as it is adaptable to multiple platforms without recompilation (like Java) and well supported by Microsoft.

    Consider, though, that many business solutions aren't restricted to a single language - they consist of several components that communicate together and usually using different language tools. For example, a multiple server-client relationship, where the backbone of the work is done by server applications (C++ etc.), automated by web-based scripting (PHP, ASP.NET etc.) and results sent to the client apps (VB, C++, .NET, etc).

    In short, if you want to improve yourself as a developer, the single most valuable skill you can attain is versatility, because then you have the power to use any language. Learn programming, not just coding.
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    Re: Future of VB

    Quote Originally Posted by si_the_geek
    That's right.. if VB6 apps work properly post-Vista, we'll be lucky....
    That's half right...
    For small businesses yes but big companies are not upgrading their environment as fast - it's very cost effective. Vista is on the way but major corps are still running WinNT4, Win2K so maybe by the time Vista is out they will finalize their "move" to XP...
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    Re: Future of VB

    I know what you mean (the last company I worked at was usually 2-3 years behind on OS's), but the point I was making is that VB6 apps will apparently work on Windows Vista, but will probably not work on the next version.. whenever it is actually installed!
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    Re: Future of VB

    vb net isnt dead
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