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Mar 6th, 2001, 11:42 AM
#1
Thread Starter
Frenzied Member
This is a great idea, though I dont know if it will work.
From News.com

update A 21-year-old Canadian said he plans to establish a Napster clone off the coast
of Britain in an attempt to sidestep U.S. copyright laws.
Matt Goyer wrote on his Web site, Fairtunes.com, that he has conducted research into an
offshore co-location "to set up an OpenNap server beyond the reach of the RIAA." He
estimates the cost to be $15,000 (USD) in the first year and hopes to collect money from
1,500 "irate Napster users."
"If 1,500 people chip in...then it'd be completely possible to do it," Goyer wrote.
"Fifteen-hundred irate Napster users? We're sure we could find that many once the courts shut
them down early next week."
The move comes shortly
after the popular
music-swapping service
said it would voluntarily
block thousands of songs
from its service in
anticipation of a potential
court order that could
demand even stronger
remedies to end the trade of
copyrighted music online.
Lawyers for the music
industry and Napster
gathered in a courtroom in
San Francisco on Friday to
rehash arguments over how
to police alleged copyright
violations on the service. A
ruling is expected any time.
Goyer, who co-founded Fairtunes.com last year to enable Napster fans to compensate artists
by voluntarily sending them money, follows others who have established file-swapping
businesses outside of the United States. Israeli-based iMesh offers a service almost identical
to Napster in which members search through a central database of available files but connect
to each other directly when downloading selected songs.
Copyright attorneys said that overseas file-swapping operations could be harder for the music
industry to close down.
"The reality is the further away you get from the United States, where most of the copyrights
are and where the copyright holders live, then the harder it's going to be to enforce," said
Kenneth Freundlich, a partner at Schleimer & Freundlich.
Reports said that Goyer is looking to set up his music-sharing service in Sealand, an ocean
platform 6 miles off the eastern shore of England. Sealand, which was an island fortress
created in World War II by Britain and founded as a sovereign principality in 1967, has become
a popular location for online businesses.
A company called HavenCo launched its business operations in Sealand last year in an effort
to provide an off-shore facility for individuals or companies that wish to conduct their online
businesses in a secure environment. According to HavenCo, Sealand has no laws governing
data traffic, and its operation in Sealand offers "a haven" from legislation such as the U.S.
Digital Millennium Copyright Act and Britain's Regulation of Investigatory Powers.
"The whole purpose of Sealand was to set up a place where no other laws govern," Freudlich
said. "I presume that Sealand would want to have nothing to do with a court in the United
States that said Napster Sealand is illegal."
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Mar 6th, 2001, 12:14 PM
#2
Frenzied Member
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Mar 6th, 2001, 12:49 PM
#3
Addicted Member
great
i don't even know why they try stopping it, they will stop it in US but not outside.
and this news is just great... go napster!
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Mar 6th, 2001, 01:01 PM
#4
Hyperactive Member
I wouldn't join - There are plenty of alternatives to Napster, including alt.binaries newsgroups.
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Mar 6th, 2001, 01:02 PM
#5
Lively Member
I'm surprised Software Developers would support Napster. So it's ok to steal as long as it isn't your program?
Hypocrits, just like everyone else on this planet.
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Mar 6th, 2001, 01:13 PM
#6
Hyperactive Member
File sharing is a good way to sample before you buy, as long as you buy.
What's the difference between that and a trial version of a program? If you don't like the program , you delete it , if you like it , you pay for it.
Same way with File sharing, if you don't like it you get rid of it, if you like it, you buy it.
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Mar 6th, 2001, 01:23 PM
#7
Lively Member
Some authors choose to have trials.
Some bands choose to have downloads.
But the bands are not making this choice you see. And when you can burn the whole CD why buy it? Guilt?
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Mar 6th, 2001, 02:16 PM
#8
Frenzied Member
If I like the music and I have the money to spend, then I will buy the music on CD after listening to it on mp3. I'm not going to buy it without trying it first unless I know the band very well.
If you have strong objections to me listening to music which I can't afford to buy, then we shall have to disagree. My opinion is just the same for software, this isn't a double standard, what is the point in stopping someone from using software if they couldn't pay for it anyway?
Why buy it? Because I want to own the music on CD. I want to own it. That's why. It's nothing to do with guilt, I just want to own music by the bands that I like.
Harry.
"From one thing, know ten thousand things."
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Mar 7th, 2001, 12:45 PM
#9
Addicted Member
today, the court told Napster to shut down in 3 days!!!!!
hurry up fellas...
btw: i don't have any more space on my HD to fit another MP3.
what's up with FairTunes.com - doesn't work for me...
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Mar 7th, 2001, 02:33 PM
#10
Hyperactive Member
ShIzO,
Try audiogalaxy - It's better than Napster and faster.
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Mar 7th, 2001, 03:44 PM
#11
Addicted Member
compuGEEK,
can't get to their website!!!
it's audiogalaxy.com, right?
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Mar 7th, 2001, 07:07 PM
#12
transcendental analytic
i've been using audiogalaxy for a year until a month ago when i couldn't get logged in anymore, there's suppose to show up something when you do:
telnet garlic.audiogalaxy.com 21
but it says "connection to host lost". Yesterday i got in though but today i can't. weird.
i've asked some of my friends on icq, they don't get in either, what about you guys?
anyway audiogalaxy has way more users than any other music community and it keeps track and start d/l you mp3s you want resumes and has all mp3s been online stored in a database
Use  
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writing haskell makes your life easier:
reverse (p (6*9)) where p x|x==0=""|True=chr (48+z): p y where (y,z)=divMod x 13
To throw away OOP for low level languages is myopia, to keep OOP is hyperopia. To throw away OOP for a high level language is insight.
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Mar 7th, 2001, 07:19 PM
#13
Thread Starter
Frenzied Member
Originally posted by ShIzO
today, the court told Napster to shut down in 3 days!!!!!
hurry up fellas...
Umm unless I am mistaken, it doesnt have three days. The verdict was that Napster had 72 hours to filter out a song submitted by a record company. If Napster did not comply with the request the judge could order them shut down totally.
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