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Aug 14th, 2006, 04:40 PM
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Partial Fractions
Hello good VB people,
Now I know that you can do things like
5/(x+4)(x-3) = A/(x+4) + B/(x-3)
or
3/(x²+2)(x+4) = (Ax + B)/(x²+2) + C(x+4)
but can you apply the same idea to sin(ax)/sqrt[(x-k)(x+k)] ??
For example
sin(ax)/sqrt[(x-k)(x+k)] = Asin(ax)/sqrt(x-k) + Bsin(ax)/sqrt(x+k)
Even if you can apply the same theory, I wonder what form the RHS should take. Perhaps
sin(ax)/sqrt[(x-k)(x+k)] = (Ax + B)sin(ax)/sqrt(x-k) + (Cx + D)sin(ax)/sqrt(x+k) ???
Any imput would be appreciated, as I may be about to make a major breakthrough with the integral
INT[ sin(ax)/sqrt{(x-c)² + b} ] dx
which has thus far eluded my friend and I. It looks like it should be easy, but not even Mathematica or Maple produce an answer in terms of kown functions.
Ok cheers, Mattywoo
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Aug 14th, 2006, 04:48 PM
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Re: Partial Fractions
Can't you do a substitution on that for x-c and then use a trig function to sort out the square root and solve the whole thing by parts?
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Aug 14th, 2006, 05:04 PM
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Re: Partial Fractions
Tried it. It doesn't work.
The new integral that appears on the RHS when you do it by parts includes arsinh(x) or arctan(x) and so it beaks down.
If you simply make the trig substitution the new integral that you get looks like sin(sinh(x)) or sin(tan(x)) if you rationalise the denominator first.
It's definitely not as easy as that. But thanks for the imput.
Can anyone answer my query on partial fractions?
All the best, Mattywoo
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Aug 15th, 2006, 02:49 AM
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Re: Partial Fractions
Tried it but didn't get anything useful
Only reduced the problem to 1/sqrt[(x-k)(x+k)] by bringing the sin(ax) to the front of the fraction.
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Aug 15th, 2006, 01:30 PM
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Re: Partial Fractions
Sure, but can we legally do partial fractions on it?
If so I may be able to solve the integral.
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Aug 16th, 2006, 02:36 AM
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Re: Partial Fractions
I tried squaring it. Doing partial fractions on what I got and then square rooting but that led to something that was hard to integrate. Other way leads to:
1/sqrt[(x-k)(x+k)] = A/sqrt[(x-k)] + B/sqrt[(x+k)]
1 = Asqrt(x+k) + Bsqrt(x-k)
x=-k
1 = Bsqrt(-2k)
x=k
1 = Asqrt(2k)
Unless k = 0 this means one of the square roots will be of a negative number which would bring in complex numbers and a whole heap of problems
So unless you can think of different numerators for A and B that will eliminate this problem I can't see how this would work
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Aug 17th, 2006, 01:37 PM
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Re: Partial Fractions
The last time I did par fracs for "something over sqrt something" the numerator looked like Ax + B, not just A.
But thanks for your help all the same
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Aug 18th, 2006, 03:02 AM
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Re: Partial Fractions
Standard ones are:
Linear factors
eg 1/[(x + 1)(x + 2)] = A/(x + 1) + B/(x + 2)
Repeated factors
eg 1/[(x + 1)^2(x + 2)] = A/(x + 1) + B/(x + 1)^2 + C/(x + 2)
Quadratic factors
eg 1/[(x^2 + 1)(x + 2)] = (Ax + B)/(x^2 + 1) +c/(x + 2)
I would say your problem is most like repeated factors but can't see how it would work in the same way. My reasoning was that in all cases the possibility that only constants remain on top of the fractions is there so it was worth working through to see if it worked which it didn't.
eg Repeated factors would be assuming A = 0
eg Quadratic factors would be assuming A = 0
Long shot but might have worked
Problem is that there are infinitely many ways of building the fractions. There is always another way. The above forms are useful because they always give an answer. I don't know of any more that always do.
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Aug 18th, 2006, 01:40 PM
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Re: Partial Fractions
Okay cheers. I just wondered if it could work, but I was clutching at staws admittedly!
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