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    The Otherside of Outsourcing

    Just an interesting article i came across

    India tech firms seek US talent in offshoring twist
    Labor crunch stirs global recruiting
    By Diane E. Lewis, Globe Staff | May 30, 2006

    Five years ago, US firms were wooing India's computer science graduates with lucrative job offers and a chance to live in America. Now, it's India's turn.

    Technologies Ltd., a leading Indian software provider, will spend $100 million over the next year to hire and train 25,000 workers and college graduates culled from around the world, including from Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University. Tata Consultancy Services Ltd. of Bangalore will add 30,500 employees over the next year, including 1,000 from the United States.

    In a case of reverse offshoring, Indian tech companies are beefing up their staffs by hiring Americans and foreigners to work in India. They also are opening offices around the world and recruiting local staff. The firms are launching the global recruiting effort because of labor shortages in India. Indian companies are expanding beyond data entry and back-office processes into areas such as design, research and development, and sophisticated business applications that require highly skilled workers.

    Tata hired John Dubiel, 59, of Westford in November. Dubiel spent two weeks in India, learning about the firm's products and meeting his Indian counterparts. Dubiel now works out of Tata's Boston office as an executive helping North American companies solve their business problems with technology.

    ``The major difference between working for this company and an American firm are the time zones," said Dubiel. ``Because TCS is global, the sun never sets on us. It is not unusual to make calls at midnight or at 4 a.m."

    For years, US companies have imported talent from the two Indian firms, saying there were not enough technology workers here. However, lengthy delays due to immigration issues such as caps on the number of H1-B visas for foreign professionals prompted Indian companies to develop another strategy.

    ``They said, `Let's train people in the United States or India and make them an extension of our offshore team -- in the United States,' " said Gary David , an associate professor of sociology at Bentley College . ``So, Americans are now becoming the offshore component for foreign firms."

    Currently, more than 10,000 American expatriates work in India for Indian information technology consulting and other outsourcing firms, a number that is expected to grow, said John McCarthy, vice president of Asia Pacific research at Forrester Research in Cambridge.

    Meanwhile, American firms seeking to reduce labor costs are stepping up offshoring efforts and will be sending more white-collar jobs abroad. McCarthy estimates that US employers will move 3.4 million jobs and $136 billion in wages overseas by 2017. Those jobs will include positions in technology, finance, life sciences, human resources administration, and business management. Most will be jobs that do not require face-to-face time with clients

    Analysts from another research firm, Gartner Inc., based in Connecticut, say that outsourcing of IT jobs from the United States, Europe, and other major regions to developing countries will increase to 30 percent in 2015, up from under 5 percent today.

    But as US firms seek to cut costs, Indian firms Infosys and Tata are scouring the world for highly skilled talent, and they say they will pay the prevailing wage for new hires in Japan, the United States, and England.

    This summer, Infosys will train 300 graduates it recruited from American colleges. The new employees will receive starting salaries of $55,000 after completing a six-month course at the firm's training facility in Mysore, India. The recruits will then start full-time jobs in the company's offices in Texas, Arizona, Massachusetts, New York, Illinois, or California. Infosys trains recruits in India to acquaint them with the firm's culture and with their Indian colleagues.

    Matt Sorge , 23, will graduate from MIT with a bachelor of science degree in mechanical engineering next month. Four weeks later, he'll fly to the Infosys training center in Mysore.

    A native of Oklahoma, Sorge met an Infosys representative at an MIT job fair last fall and was struck by the firm's offer and the chance to work abroad.

    ``When Infosys started talking about being with a global team, it seemed like an exciting industry," said Sorge. ``So, I figured skewing my career path a little might be more beneficial to me. They're basically giving me an education in computer science, something I would otherwise have to pay for."

    Infosys, the second - largest information technology consulting firm in India with $2.15 billion in revenue and more than 52,000 employees worldwide, says there are advantages to hiring a global workforce. ``We're hoping to bring a different kind of diversity to our workplace," said Bikramjit Maitra , head of human resources at Infosys. ``For us, diversity is a way to encourage innovation."

    Since India has become a center for computer science, firms can teach new hires in India, where there is state-of-the-art training, said Surya Kant , president of Tata Consultancy Services America.

    At Tata, new hires and professionals train in their own countries and then travel to India for orientation or full-time work. Tata employs 62,000, including 9,500 Americans, who mostly work in the United States.

    Michael McCabe , a spokesman for Tata Consultancy Services North America, said the quest for talent in India is driving the push to recruit skilled workers from other fields.

    ``We have a robust and aggressive talent acquisition plan to tackle recruiting in 34 countries around the globe, including the United States," said McCabe. ``We want to grow in every geography."
    Outsourcing may not be as one-sided as people think

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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    Could you sum it up in like 2 sentences? I'm too lazy to read all that.

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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    Me too. I would also like a summed up version

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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    Indian company hiring Americans to work in America. This second sentence is not really necessary, but I see no reason not to turn it into some long run on type of thing which may wander off into other topics like frogs which are wet and squishy things, or mice, which are dry and squishy things, though both of them are very wet if you were to step on them, and they are both crunchy, too.
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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    Thank you sir, may I have another?
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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    That was great, i read the first 4 lines then scrolled down for the summed up version... Much better
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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    The grass is always greener on the other side of outsourcing.

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    managed to read the first paragraph... got disappointed with the summary though!!!

    I READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH!!!

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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    Quote Originally Posted by oceanebelle
    managed to read the first paragraph... got disappointed with the summary though!!!

    I READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH!!!
    Well done, have a cookie.
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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatone
    Well done, have a cookie.

    Thanks i just ate loads of it for breakfast. eheheheh got another better reward?

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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    Quote Originally Posted by oceanebelle
    Thanks i just ate loads of it for breakfast. eheheheh got another better reward?
    Here take JR... that's a reward for the whole forum. Just be careful not to get any on you, he's not very nice... eurgh
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    Oooh, did you enjoy the cookies anyway? And did you save me any ?
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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    Oh yeah! I still got loads!

    but think JR would eat those? Last time I heard, he was on a very strict diet.

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    JR may well eat them... Last time i heard he was banned I have no clue about now...
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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    I read the entire thing. I clicked on the link also, but it doesnt work.

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    Re: The Otherside of Outsourcing

    Quote Originally Posted by oceanebelle
    Oh yeah! I still got loads!

    but think JR would eat those? Last time I heard, he was on a very strict diet.
    Lesbians?


    You found my summary inferior to the one paragraph you read? Hmmmm, must have been sentence number 2. Not thorough enough, perhaps.
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