Shall we just stop visiting CNN?

[mendhak]

With the latest version of Firefox, opening a news article on CNN.com causes it to hang.

Wonderful. I don't know whom to congratulate.

[mar_zim]

It's ok here. I have the 1.5.04 version.

[mar_zim]

Actually I'm not fan of CNN they have pop-ups. I just visit BBC for international news.

[penagate]

WFM. I was on cnn earlier. Only end up there when there's a link from Google news.

[demotivater]

The communist news networks page has been slow for me since they updated their site a few weeks ago

[NoteMe]

I have CNN on in the background every now and then just to listen to the English. Seldom have someone used so many VERY british/english expressions in so little time as CNN...kind of fun though...

[zaza]

Congratulate me. I am not responsible, but deserving of congratulation nonetheless.

[visualAd]

I never started visting CNN.

[Dayjo]

BBC ftw

[thegreatone]

BBC ftw

Agreed.

[mendhak]

Isn't it ironic?

[mar_zim]

Have you tried viewing CNN in IE?

Actually It's ok here...viewing news article in CNN using the latest updates of Firefox.

[penagate]

Isn't it ironic?

No, because you're the only one with the problem.

[mendhak]

No, because you're the only one with the problem.

That's ironic.

[mendhak]

Hmm... I think I see why, they've got a Java applet on their news article pages now.

[penagate]

That's not ironic.

I hate Java.

[mendhak]

Java is the original .NET you know? Of course you know.

[penagate]

MS did it better. One of their finer achievements.

[v!sualAd]

I am not at liberty to comment on it. But ....

[mendhak]

MS did it better. One of their finer achievements.

I agree. A lot of people will whine about them copying things, but in the end, it's the implementation that matters, and they've gotten a lot of things right, .NET being one of them.

PS: I hate Java too. Probably more than you hate Java.

[penagate]

Well, my experience of Java development extends for about 1 evening of sifting through code, IDE-less, spending most of the time looking for classes referenced from classes that were referenced from classes referenced from the original file that I was looking in because it was referenced from another file, and swearing profusely at the general insanity of the situation. So my opinion may not count for very much.

But I bet I hate Java morerer.

[v!sualAd]

Having done a bit of Java I did not find it that forth coming. Compile and execution times were very slow and the language lacks some of the flexibility you would expect from a high level language, such as the ability to execute functions whose names are stored in variables, control over pass by value and by reference, no funciton literals or pointers and an annoying exception/error handling model.

I hear good things about .NET and I am awaiting devliery of some .NET related software from a secret contact . Failing that I may when I have time downlaod and install mono. :rofl:

[mendhak]

Having done a bit of Java I did not find it that forth coming. Compile and execution times were very slow and the language lacks some of the flexibility you would expect from a high level language, such as the ability to execute functions whose names are stored in variables...

Have you tried System.Reflection?

[Arrow_Raider]

programs that are created with java have ugly gui.

[Valleysboy1978]

Being a Java developer for two years and now a .Net developer I think I can say I have a good basis in both. MS can either create total rubbish (IE) or get it spot on, and .Net is definitely one of their finer works

[mendhak]

Fair enough, if you three say so.

Question though, what is the best IDE that Java programmers have? Does it compare to Visual Studio? I've only ever worked with it in notepad because they were smaller jobs. And I ask this because a lot of the "experience" a developer has with a language also depends upon the IDE, which tends to sway opinions.