I know I know. I just havent learned DIVs yet and I hear they are better but I have a second TD to the right of the menu TD that is for displaying the meat of the page. If I take out the TD then the meat will shift to the left.

I write my inline css so after I am done I can shift it all over to the css file. Just seems easier tome to be able to group it after you can see where its all laid out.

I'll try the updated code right now. I didnt think you were awake yet.