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    Fiendish algebra problem

    I have a complex variable X of the form X=A*cos(theta)+i*A*sin(theta)
    where A and theta are the amplitude and phase of X respectively.

    I have an equation relating X to a real variable Y:

    X=(a-b+i*a*b*Y)/(a+b+i*a*b*Y) (equation 1)

    where a and b are real constants.

    If I plot out the locus of X as Y varies, I can use geometry to prove the following relationship between the amplitude (A) and phase (theta) of X:

    A=(1/(1+a/b))*cos(theta) +or- ((1/(1+a/b))*(cos(theta))^2-((1-a/b)/(1+a/b)))^0.5

    I desperately need to prove this algebraically from equation 1, but am a lowly engineer and so am unable to. Any help achieving this would be greatly apreciated.

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    Re: Fiendish algebra problem

    [wrinkles nose] Sniff sniff! Is that homework I smell?



    There is a standard way to solving these equations, employed whenever you have i in the denominator. I'll tell you what it is, then you can do it .

    In your equation for X, multiply the RHS by 1. RHS x 1 = RHS, so this is OK.
    But we will write 1 as (a+b-iabY)/(a+b-iabY). Clearly this is 1, but when you do the multiplication and expand, all the i terms in the denominator will disappear. As if by magic. By swapping the sign and multiplying, you ensure that this is so.

    So, expand X = (a-b+iabY)(a+b-iabY) / (a+b+iabY)(a+b-iabY)

    Then you can collect the terms on top of the equation into those with an i and those without.
    You now have something of the form X = G + iH

    and since you know that X = A cos theta + i A sin theta, you now know that G = A cos theta and H = A sin theta.

    And then you rearrange, and that's it!


    Have fun!

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    Re: Fiendish algebra problem

    Thank you for the reply. Sorry I should have been more clear in my question. I am aware that the rout to take is to multiply by the complex conjugate of the denominator and equate real and imaginary parts.

    The problem is this: you will notice that the equation I am seeking to derive relating amplitude to phase is independent of the variable Y. When I multiply by complex conjugate and equate real and imaginary parts, I can get an equation relating amplitude to phase, but it is proving very difficult to remove the variable Y from it.

    I hope that I have made some sort of sense there.

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