Napster

Behemoth · Feb 1st, 2001, 10:54 AM

a fantastic way to waste an afternoon with a Tx connection...ho hum...

**substring** · Feb 1st, 2001, 11:26 PM

Napster rules!!!

**YoungBuck** · Feb 2nd, 2001, 01:25 AM

a fantastic way to waste a week with a 56k connection...ho hum...

Feb 2nd, 2001, 01:49 AM

I heard something about having to pay a fee to download from Napster in the future, anyone else heard anything about it?

**JPRoy392** · Feb 2nd, 2001, 09:01 AM

I heard the same thing. What I understand is this: Napster (free) will still exist. The company that bought Napster last year is going to start Napster 2. Napster 2 is going to require a monthly fee (between $5 - $15) and you will get "premium" downloads. What this means exaclty, no one knows. Maybe it will be a club where you need either a DSL, Cable or a Tx connection to join. I really don't care because I don't plan on paying for it. I can see that eventually Bartlesman (owns Napster) will probably remove the original Napster and only keep the pay service going.

Feb 2nd, 2001, 09:19 AM

if its cheap and you dont need to use a DSL or higer connections i would pay, only if there is alot more people that are willing to or there will be nothing to download!!

**HarryW** · Feb 2nd, 2001, 09:25 AM

Why pay? What has Napster actually got? They have a client which connects users to each other via their servers. So what? People have made clone clients, and there are clone servers as far as I know, what has Napster got? Users, that's all. The only reason people use Napster is because everyone else does. If people were to set up alternative servers with clone clients, there would be no need to have anything to do with them. I can't see how they are going to make it work, unless enough people are taken in by it. Perhaps they will start to provide actual content, in which case it might be worth paying for, but I doubt it.

**JPRoy392** · Feb 2nd, 2001, 09:44 AM

As usual, I agree with Harry.

**HarryW** · Feb 2nd, 2001, 09:58 AM

Who wouldn't?

Feb 2nd, 2001, 03:32 PM

I agree with you Harry..... but I don't want to... *mumble mumble*

**nukem996** · Feb 2nd, 2001, 09:05 PM

well ive heard something like that but, it will only be like $0.15 and only for bands who ask it for roaltise. i dl alot of stuff most of my music is from napster.
if napster dose become evil and asks for money and all the crap thiers always the old way, use a seacrch engine and surch for hours to find one song, or use www.audiofind.com its like napster on the web. but its slower, some links are broken, and u lose alot of great fetures that napster has.

**nukem996** · Feb 2nd, 2001, 09:07 PM

we'er all programers, if napster goes evil then we'll make are own kind of napster.
i think napster uses FTP to send files and every one else uses HTTP that why people say napster is faster.

**Rh0ads** · Feb 5th, 2001, 09:24 AM

I found a "new napster child" that might become the alternative to napster, it really sux right now (it has a whole 20 members), but just thought you'd like to know that www.aimster.com might be our next napster :-D

**sail3005** · Feb 5th, 2001, 09:53 AM

or you could just use the napster program, and use gator to connect to another nap server. I have to go to school now!

Feb 5th, 2001, 09:54 AM

what is it with this whole -ster suffix. why dont we all club together and build "Hamster"...

Feb 5th, 2001, 10:08 AM

if napster goes evil...

...i love that

**nukem996** · Feb 5th, 2001, 03:34 PM

i still think we should make are own. if napster goes evil.

**JistaBout** · Feb 5th, 2001, 08:42 PM

Golly......Gee whiz!! Imagine That!
The concept of some artists who put together songs that people like and will download and who will actually get paid some for their efforts! WOW! Isn't there a similar concept in programming called Shareware???
I don't know about you guys, but it kinda makes me feel special when someone uses one of my programs and likes it enough to pay something

Napster isn't the enemy anyway - its the RIAA and their stupid dollar-sign attempt at the regulation of it. If the fee is reasonable and the selection is good then don't gripe about supporting it!

**SteveCRM** · Feb 5th, 2001, 08:46 PM

I would be proud if someone downloaded my damn freeware!

**HarryW** · Feb 6th, 2001, 04:03 AM

I don't feel reasonable enough to pay for Napster. The bloody Napster client sucks anyway.

Feb 6th, 2001, 06:09 AM

yesterday, on one particular occaision, I got a download speed of 340k!

My mate across the office managed 430k just a little while later...

**Technocrat** · Feb 6th, 2001, 01:14 PM

I have been a napster pirate (Yeah thats right I said pirate because that is what napster allows you to be) since beta 4
Here is the way I see it:
BMG music, which bought Napster, has control over somewhere between 10-20% of the music rights. So if you think that any of there music will still be avil for download on the free napster, you might want to lay off the drugs.

Sony, Warren and all the other big music houses, which own 50-60% of the remaining music, stopped most of their lawsuites. Again do you think that you will see any of their music on the free service? I doubt it.

That means you will have to pay like $30 a month to get the good stuff because the free napster will only have the music that is not under a big label.

So then GNutella, Freeserver, ShareBear (I know sounds stupid but is the best napster alt so far) etc become easier to use and faster on the downloads. So people like myself that like free better than $$ start using those. With no centeral server or user database it will be had to shut down. Slowly Napster dies because everyone is using these other products.

Sean Fanning sold out so I hope Napster dies.
Just my 2 cents
oOTECHOo on Napster

**Technocrat** · Feb 6th, 2001, 01:22 PM

I see that someone talked about making their own Napster. Go to town I need more MP3s

Here is the Napster protocol
http://opennap.sourceforge.net/napster.txt

**HarryW** · Feb 6th, 2001, 01:22 PM

Wow, 3 people agreeing with me in one post (not even counting multiple personalities), that has to be a first

**nukem996** · Feb 6th, 2001, 01:48 PM

NAPSTER ISNT WORKING ON MY COMPUTER!!!!! Y THE **** WONT IT DL!?!?!?!?!?!?!

**Technocrat** · Feb 6th, 2001, 01:50 PM

Does it give you an error?
Are you firewalled?

**nukem996** · Feb 6th, 2001, 05:03 PM

i think that all the severs where down this moring, cause of the storm. te he i went on right after they got power back on.

**Technocrat** · Feb 6th, 2001, 05:13 PM

Hmm ok, I leave mine on 24/7 and I did not have a break in service at all today. Oh well

**nukem996** · Feb 7th, 2001, 03:31 PM

im in nj. thier was a big storm and it took out the power and some phone. maybe thats y.

**HarryW** · Feb 7th, 2001, 03:42 PM

This has just been bugging me...

There are 3 words pronounced the same, 'there', 'their' and 'they're'. Note the spellings.

'There' as in, "There will be a brief interlude."
'Their' as in, "I don't know who they are but their ass sure looks good."
'They're' as in, "Do you have any idea where they're going?"

'Their' is possessive. 'They're' is a conjunction (I think). Not sure how you'd classify 'there'.

None of them are spelt 'thier'.

Feb 7th, 2001, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by HarryW
This has just been bugging me...

There are 3 words pronounced the same, 'there', 'their' and 'they're'. Note the spellings.

'There' as in, "There will be a brief interlude."
'Their' as in, "I don't know who they are but their ass sure looks good."
'They're' as in, "Do you have any idea where they're going?"

'Their' is possessive. 'They're' is a conjunction (I think). Not sure how you'd classify 'there'.

None of them are spelt 'thier'.

'There' is also used to point places out.

"Hey, look over there!"

**Technocrat** · Feb 7th, 2001, 03:47 PM

At what point did this become a perfect English board?

**nukem996** · Feb 7th, 2001, 03:57 PM

are you talking to me. AND DAMN IT DENNISWRENN IM TRYING TO MAKE EVERY WORD NOT INTO U, UR, ECT BUT ITS A PAIN IN THE ASS TO SWITCH NOW. I DO U, UR, ECT IN SCHOOL TO!!!

**HarryW** · Feb 7th, 2001, 04:04 PM

Oh didn't you know? I've been appointed site spelling monitor

Nukem, who else do you see on this thread that is mispelling/misusing the words I was explaining?

Don't your teachers object to you abbreviating everything?

**barrk** · Feb 7th, 2001, 04:10 PM

Stop shouting Nuke....they are just trying to make it easier to communicate with you........take it as constructive not destructive!

Feb 8th, 2001, 04:52 AM

etc, not ect. Comes from the Latin Et Cetera (and so forth).

Dont worry nuke, no one's getting at you - its just another source of conversation...

**nukem996** · Feb 8th, 2001, 06:29 PM

they dont really care about that stuff. all ive been doing all year is notes, and tests. the essays only the info has to be correct, not the grammer or spelling. and when i do have to write well for big reports, i have word and i can correct but it takes for ever. my first copy is always like how i talk here and every where else.

also. . .
ive been programing so much this year that in my notes thier are little things that are kinda like vb code and c++.
ex:
wifes == 1 children = 10

**HarryW** · Feb 8th, 2001, 08:11 PM

Strange. I think they should care. I mean, you wouldn't find it easy to get a job if you wrote your CV like that, and if you make the same mistakes in your code it will be hell to maintain. Things like that matter.

**nukem996** · Feb 8th, 2001, 08:25 PM

tell them that.

**HarryW** · Feb 8th, 2001, 08:33 PM

It's not just their problem - it's your life.

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