home-network question

[jlbovo]

hi, i am all new to this networking thing. i just got a router to share my dsl cnnt. btween my 2 cxomputers. now i need a little help setuping how to share files and folders across the 2. one is name SUN, the other SNOW. and SNOW is where the router is installed and such w/ primary cnnt to the internat. if anyone can point me to a good site that can help me configure this ( i just want to beable to transfer files between the 2 pc's) setup it'd be really helpful. i'd sat and checked out a cppl of sites, if anyone else has good info on this it'd b appercaited, and thanks !! - justin

[dglienna]

First, make sure that the workgroup name is the same on both PC's. Then run the Network Connection Wizard on both machines. Then, on each machine, you have to set folders that you want to be shared (which adds a blue hand underneath, indicating shared)

Then, when you View Workgroup Computers, you should see both machines.
If you have different usenames on each, you might need to create an account for the other machine (if you have W2K or XP Pro).

When you double click on the other machine, you should see shared folders.

You can share a printer using the same method. Search for network printers, and you should see the ones that you've shared on the respective machines.

[abhijit]

I have a somewhat similar setup. I am not able to ping the first machine from the second machine. Both the machines use a wireless router.

[dglienna]

That would be your firewall then. If the workgroup name is the same, you should see both machines in View Workgroup Computers.

[jlbovo]

right, it's all wired set-up. no wirlesss, it's winXP pro too. but now when i clicked on my network places it say 'cannot access mshome, make sure you have permission(something along those lines)'..? i don't know. there no Adrive upstairs and all i want to do is transfer some files.

[McCain]

Windows shares can be a pain to set up. Usualy I only get them to work one-way if I can get them to work at all...

A lot of the time I find it easier to just set up an ftp server on one of the machines. That way you also get access to your files when you're not at home.

Or if it's just a few small files I'll just email them to myself

[abhijit]

I just discovered a site called http://www.myipaddress.com and it shows the same ip address for both these boxes. As for ipconfig, it shows me a 192. ip address which means that I am on the router.

[dglienna]

Create an account for the other machine on each machine. I have a 'laptop' account on my server, and I have to log on to share the printer wirelessely.

[abhijit]

Windows shares can be a pain to set up. Usualy I only get them to work one-way if I can get them to work at all...

A lot of the time I find it easier to just set up an ftp server on one of the machines. That way you also get access to your files when you're not at home.

Or if it's just a few small files I'll just email them to myself

I cant do taht either. The Ipaddress on both the machines is the same.

[thegreatone]

I cant do taht either. The Ipaddress on both the machines is the same.

They won't be if the router assigns DHCP addresses, for example, mine is setup as follows -

PC1 = 192.168.2.3
PC2 = 192.168.2.2
The Router = 192.168.2.1

Alternatively, i simply used an Apache server, with PHP and setup a trnsfer system via that.
If you wanty i could post the PHP files i use.

[k1ll3rdr4g0n]

They won't be if the router assigns DHCP addresses, for example, mine is setup as follows -

PC1 = 192.168.2.3
PC2 = 192.168.2.2
The Router = 192.168.2.1

Alternatively, i simply used an Apache server, with PHP and setup a trnsfer system via that.
If you wanty i could post the PHP files i use.

Why not a FTP server?

@abhijit

Of course they are going to say the same if you look at your IP address at www.whatismyip.com because they are both sharing the internet on the same IP via the router. That is whats called an external IP. To add onto what thegreatone is saying, the DHCP will assign every computer connected an internal IP, an IP that can't be reached outside your network.
With Windows XP Pro (don't know about Windows 2k, or XP home), you can acctually view computers on other workgroups, just open any old explorer window type "entire network" in the address bar. Now you are acctually viewing every single Network type. But, you want to access your computer..Double click on "Microsoft Windows Network". That will show any computers connected to any workgroups on your network. Neat huh?

(Also FYI, you can access a computer if you know the name of it by typing \\computername in explorer)

@McCain

Yes, it is if you are trying to connect cross platform, ie from 98 to XP. Or linux to XP. Because as Windows versions got older, so did the security. And with security, it got more diffucult to just click 'share' and different ways that Windows talked over the network (ie if you make it so only a certain username can access a folder, and try and access it via a 95 machine to a XP machine, they may not like each other. Although it's SUPPOSED to work...). If you want everyone to access a certain folder you have give permissions to everyone. But, there are shortcuts like if you share your C drive (HD), I've noticed that Windows will put a C$ (note the $) as the share name. The $ means only the admin can access it, take it off, now everyone can access it.

[thegreatone]

@ killerdragon.

I didn't want to setup an FTP when i could just click PHPTRIAD and have everything going lovely, (this is the only machine to use PHPTRIAD, my other is managed by me, although it was a headache at first)

Plus, i frequently need to let people access my files from outside my network, so, i simply used my IP and opoened up Port 81, then routed it to port 80 (to stop people randomly browsing)

Put it this way, it seemed easiest at the time, lol.

Also: I apologise fo my spelling errors, i have been typing non-stop for quite some time now, and my fingers are getting tired

[k1ll3rdr4g0n]

It's cool. Since he just wants to trasnfer files over his network, it makes more sense to use FTP than setup a Web server .

That reminds me of a saying:
Why try and put a square shape in a circle shaped hole?

[thegreatone]

It's cool. Since he just wants to trasnfer files over his network, it makes more sense to use FTP than setup a Web server .

That reminds me of a saying:
Why try and put a square shape in a circle shaped hole?

Because overkill is fun ? lol